True Story: CA Just Banned Semi-Auto Handguns*

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If the manufacturers actually cared about the RKBA, they would refuse to sell to police agencies in states that banned their guns.
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And that is precisely why if I am ever lucky enough to save the money up, I will be buying one of Mr. Barrett's fine pieces of machinery. He stood up to the City of Los Angeles, precisely on those terms--the loss of a contract worth a lot of money.
 
Smith & Wesson is owned by an AZ company called Safe -T-Hammer. This outfit is as pro RTKBA as any other. I think, anyone who still holds a grudge against S&W for selling out, better never buy a Ford cause he was an anti-semite:D
 
Good greif...will it never end for you guys?

I was channel surfing recently and got to hear a bit about some folks lamenting about the loss of business in California to other states. I wonder..do they actually think a move like this will bring any more revenue to California?

My bet is that a few more folks will get sick of the place and move to a freindlier "country".

Good Shooting
Red
 
And that is precisely why if I am ever lucky enough to save the money up, I will be buying one of Mr. Barrett's fine pieces of machinery. He stood up to the City of Los Angeles, precisely on those terms--the loss of a contract worth a lot of money.
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That guy has a set of .50 cal. stones. Never met him, seen him, heard him, nothing but read about what he did. He must wake up every morning feeling embarassed about the squids that run his state. :fire:

Every time I hear some nitwit on TV say (in a so condesecending manner): "Well, as California goes, so goes the rest of the country..." I want to hurl. :barf:
When will Californians finally rebel against this baloney? :cuss: geegee
 
What's with the half measures? Surely it would be safer if they restricted handgun sales to only those models which cannot have a firing pin installed. :rolleyes:
 
As to SW firearms purchase, not me!

As to the gun industry stopping selling stuff to states that ban their stuff, Barrett threatened to do that if California passed the .50cal ban. Apparently some agencies in Kali use Barretts, and of course they at the very least need replacement parts every so often...

They just need to say they won't sell guns with the illegal features to PD or SWAT.

And yes, I think Gray is just trying to fork up Kali as much as possible before he gets his a*s kicked out, purely out of spiteful hatred for the state that rejected him.
 
On the upside, I now have an excuse and the extra motivation to go on a gun spending spree before this goes into effect next year, according to the local gun shop.
 
Rebel? How do the 100,000 people who are really ticked off about this DO anything. Overheard at IDPA last night: "they've got us by the balls"... well, what do we do about it?
 
Sven,
I'll bet theres more than 100,000 people P.O'd.I read/heard
that Republicans account for only 35% of California. Its
going to be an up hill battle!
We have a ray of hope with Jim March! I trust him/will
support his efforts.Look how far he's gotten in a short time!
Perhaps we need to start at the grassroots level.Waiting for the
NRA hasn't worked so far.As silly as it was,look how the MMM
was thrown together in a very short time.I don't have the number,
but I imagine the number of gun owners in this State would be
a real attention getter...if we could get everyone pulling in the
same direction.
Anyway just some thoughts.We now return you to your regularly
scheduled thread:D

QuickDraw
 
Mag Knight, What about colt's, rugers, H&K's? Do you abstain?
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The last Ruger I got was a 10/22. I haven't bought from the others, but likely I will get nothing new from them. Remember: they don't get the money if you buy used. Unfortunately, The USP Tactical will be too good to pass up if I find a good used one, and at some point I will be getting a Super Redhawk.
 
Never bought S&W. Never will buy S&W. Although this is partially because I have yet to see a decent American autoloader that is not : A) butt-ugly, B) a 1911 or C)Made by a 'traitor' company.

Only Ruger I have is a second hand 10/22, which I'm pretty sure was purchased in the 80s, before Ruger became the hand of the devil. I'm not likely to get another.
 
Keederdag said something like:
Smith & Wesson is owned by an AZ company called Safe -T-Hammer. This outfit is as pro RTKBA as any other. I think, anyone who still holds a grudge against S&W for selling out, better never buy a Ford cause he was an anti-semite
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Saf-T-Hammer bought out Tomson PLC for S&W. When the Bush Administration came to power, they stopped enforcing the agreements that Smith had signed with the Clinton administration.

However, Saf-T-Hammer has yet to repudiate or disavow any of the agreements they've signed. They've stayed silent. Even when asked.

How do I know?

I have asked. Straight to them. No answer.

In fact, nobody in Brassroots or anyone else in Arizona has received an answer about this.

So, until Smith / Saf-T-Hammer decides to disavow the agreements, they might as well be abiding by them. No new Smiths for me.

TimW
Phoenix

Tim Weaver
Phoenix Area Field Rep
Brassroots, Inc.
www.brassroots.org
 
Anyone know how it works?

How long will guns currently on the list remain on?

Will it just be "no mag disconnect, no chamber loaded indicator, no gun period"?


:(

:cuss: :cuss: :cuss:
 
For now (key term) there is no confiscation in the works, but just give the Democrats time....
 
After this thread first started, I began checking my three favorite dealers for "pre-lawyered" 1911's - Series I Kimbers, Series 70 Colts, yadda, yadda - pickings were slim. There was one lonely, used STI Ranger that I snatched up for a hot price.

When talking to STI on parts, I asked about the amount of hoop-jumping that would be needed to sell in the PRK. Response was short and not the slightest bit ambiguous. Unless my contact was mistaken, mag disconnects, loaded chamber indicators, and other such froo-froo will never darken the STI product. I like these guys. Gun was pretty nice, too.
 
They (manufacturers) will only yeild to consumer pressure on this issue. They use the RKBA stance as a marketing tool, Like the Catholic church on abusive priests. The manu.'s need to feel the heat from US before they would ever consider not selling to the LAPD.

If the manufacturers actually cared about the RKBA, they would refuse to sell to police agencies in states that banned their guns.
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We have to make them feel it just like WE have to do everything else that WE want done right.
 
If the manufacturers actually cared about the RKBA, they would refuse to sell to police agencies in states that banned their guns.
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I was just reading my copy of "America's First Freedom" that just came in the mail today, and it said that SB 489 will open up the govt to a host of new lawsuits, as pretty much all handguns used by all govt. agencies in this state would be deemed "unsafe."

I doubt the govt would actually follow the laws it creates for us peons though... :rolleyes: :cuss:
 
Maybe it is time for GW to liberate California. :D

This is yet another reason I am glad that I fled.:fire:

I was raised in the upper midwest and only ended up there out of fate. :cool:

This last 10 years, or so, has been illuminating: the march to socialism, gun-banning, bullet tax, "assault weapon" bans, and on, and on, and on
 
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