TX, CCW, and reducing problems (new to CCW)

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Heres my concern:

I'm fairly young, clean cut and try to be a model citizen. I have no past issues with the law and point being don't want any. As an ex-EMT I try to see the LEOs point of view. And I'm a good ol boy in an area where the LEOs are also good ol boys.
When I get stopped I always turn the dome light on so they can see, keep my hands open and high on the wheel. I'm always co-operative and curtious to the officer. As such I have never been asked to step out of a vehicle, my car searched, or asked the usual questions like do you have a warrent, drugs, etc. I must say I enjoy this as the last thing I want is a pissed LEO on my hands. However <sighs>,... I realize this might change once I get my CCW permit in. I know not all LEOs think CCW is a good idea and give peeps with CCWs problems on occasion. As such I know I need to be prepared for the day when I might be confronted by a hostile LEO. I have my CCW booklet w/ law and my lawyers card but what else do I need? What else might I expect or run into in Texas? Anything else I need to do besides surrender my card and weapon for inspection?
 
Sounds like your bases are covered.

I have yet to run into a hostile LEO. It might be more likely you'd find one in Dallas than where I am. But, I've traveled the state and been stopped a few times off from home and have yet to experience any hostility.

I have met some that acted like they didn't even know what the card was.

Smoke
 
Last time I was stopped (for having no front plate, silly Texas) the officer merely asked where "my piece was".

I told him it was in my backpack and that was it. No trouble at all.
 
All my hearsay inputs have been positive. Show the DL and CHL and that's pretty much the end of the officer's interest.

The DPS administration has been highly favorable in its view of the CHL program. I have a DPS-approved range at my house, and there was no foot-dragging or red tape to deal with in order to get approval.

Art
 
seven, hostility? Did not see it down there; things have really changed since '95.

I was in Austin and Kerrville last week. There was some sort of convention of the Chief Deputies Sheriffs Association at Inn of the Hills on 27. Cops all over the place.

Even though I tried to cover up it was fairly obvious I was carrying in my range attire, covered by baja shirt. No one said "boo" even as they looked right at my hip (in that Broken Arrow gun shoppe place, bunch of them standing around on Thursday morning).

Even in Austin when I asked a young lion where the Starbuck's was with my Surefire, clippy knife and TR pin on, he yawned and pointed. Things have REALLY changed in Tejas (for the better).
 
Thanks for the info guys, makes me feel alot more at ease knowing I won't be looked at as a "gun freak" whatever that is. I've just know alot of LEOs are distrustful of the sheeple having weapons.
 
Looking forward to it, Ell Tee. (Hurry!) We now return to the original thread - apologies for the detour. :)

R-Tex
 
Last time I was pulled over carrying (passenger) the officer was more interested in what we were carrying than the burned out right tail light. His jaw almost dropped when we told him everything we had in the car with us :) Can't be too careful these days is what we told him. End of that encounter, no ticket

Honestly, the one time I showed an HPD officer my CHL, she acted like she wasn't sure what to do. Called in to discuss the "situation" while I waited around for her to decide what to do. It was a little unnerving knowing that an officer didn't know how to handle the situation. No ticket that time either.

I have heard that a military ID is better than a CHL for getting out of tickets right now.
 
When you hand them your card, the cops know your record is clean and you are obeying the law. The one time I gave a cop my card and dirver's license, he handed it right back and said "Thanks, don't worry about it". Never asked where, what, if, how many. Very polite of him, I thought.
 
I've had no trouble interacting with the police while carrying. However, when driving with a friend of mine, he got a ticket for speeding even after showing his permit.
 
You're REQUIRED to have the CHL with you when you're carrying.

You're REQUIRED to hand it to a peace office who asks for your ID if you're carrying at the time.

Fail to carry your CHL when you're carrying, or fail to hand your CHL over when you're asked for ID, and you can expect problems - at least suspension of your CHL.
 
Fail to carry your CHL when you're carrying, or fail to hand your CHL over when you're asked for ID, and you can expect problems - at least suspension of your CHL.
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Yup so I hear. The LEO will swipe your card and his screen will flash something like:

*******************************************************
WARNING WARNING WARNING WARNING WARNING WARNING
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This person has a CHL permit. They should be considered armed.


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WARNING WARNING WARNING WARNING WARNING WARNING
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All in big red flashing caps I hear. Something that makes cops a bit jumpy considering its only a hair different from the screen for felony warrants.
 
When I get stopped I always turn the dome light on so they can see, keep my hands open and high on the wheel. I'm always co-operative and curtious to the officer. As such I have never been asked to step out of a vehicle, my car searched, or asked the usual questions like do you have a warrent, drugs, etc. I must say I enjoy this as the last thing I want is a pissed LEO on my hands.
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"Always"?

If I recall correctly from another post of yours in a different thread, you're 19 years old? Just how the heck often do you get stopped? I'm over 60 and I've been pulled over while driving 4 times that I can remember. Maybe 5 to make up for the one I should remember but can't.

Man, if you're 19 and thinking/talking in terms of what you "always" do when pulled over, you drive too fast.
 
maybe you can clear up a stereotype for me 7.62.....

you said more than once now that you're a 'good ol boy', and in this thread you say that the LEO's in your area are 'goold ol boys'.
now i've always understood those expressions to refer to race, as in 'we are good ol white boys'.

please tell me that i'm mistaken. because if not, it would lead one to believe that your other thread about detainment was really about your being upset that the cops detained and tresspassed the property of 'good ol white folks' instead of detaining and tresspassing the property of non-whites.

am i wrong?
 
I hate to interfer in the previous "Race Card Game", but when you said,
Anything else I need to do besides surrender my card and weapon for inspection?
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I would be real nervous about surrendering anything but a glock. They could shoot you with your own gun (Unless it's a glock and maybe even then). I think they call it a ND or an AD.

I know I'm not supposed to keep playing the same tape, but back at the St. Louis Airport, when I was arrested for committing a lawful act, the weapon I was open carrying on the seat was a PA-63 (That's a Hungarian copy of a Walther PPK, I'm told) in 9mm Makarov.

While I waited in my car for the Nice Young Policeman to run my license for wants and warrants (or whatever the he!! they do back in their car while they make you wait in yours) I thunk that I may be in danger (my sig) so I serrupticiously popped the magazine, racked the slide to clear the pipe and put the piece and magazine back on the seat.

Needless to say, none of the 7 or 8 cops that subsequently collected knew how to lock back the slide. I did, but why tell them? I saw them all messing with it and asking each other questions. Finally one of the cops who might have been sort of in charge asked me what it was. (He was filling out a report which subsequently called the piece a Macelroy)

The only cop that didn't handle the piece, while looking at it in wonderment, was the bomb sniffing dog. He could care less.

When they finally returned it, somebody had sucessfully removed the slide and put it in a box along with the magazine (which still contained the bullets) and the frame and sent me on my way.

Some LEOs that still talk to me agree. The less handling of strange firearms that goes on by LE, the safer we all are.;)

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"Always"?
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I'm 29, not 19. And don't get stopped alot but every dog has his day they say. Probably once a year, usually for speeding but sometimes for "oh I thought your inspection was out". Police though are always friendly and I treat them in kind. I try to make thier job easier as I know they deal with alot of crazy people. They almost always seemed surprised that I don't give them grief for doing thier job.

maybe you can clear up a stereotype for me 7.62.....
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Good ol' boy = cowboy area types. I live 8 minutes away from the world's largest rodeo so you do the math. :D What I was implying was the LEO could tell I was a born and raised local with probably the same belief those in my area do (read bible belt). I've actually been pulled over once by a friend of a friend from high school. Mesquite TX isn't that big a city.
As for race I'm not a racist nor have the time for those that are. My best friend of 21 years is 3/4 american indian 1/4 hispanic and I must say at times being around his family makes me ashamed of being white.
 
From overall experience since law went into effect and discussion with many of my CHL renewal students, most Texas LEOs don't want to unnecessarily handle the guns. Typically, they ask where there are, then just opt to leave them there.

I did have two encounters a couple of months back with an officer in Flower Mound that I perceived as rather paranoid. He stopped me around 9:00 one night for "failing to indicate intent to turn" (at an unoccupied t-intrsection!). Upon presentation of my licenses, he asked me to step out of the vehicle after I informed him of location of Glock (under floor matt). Upon exit, he promptly questioned the little bulge under my t-shirt on my left hip. I said "It's a cell phone. I've already told you, the gun is over there under the floor matt." He felt around a little through my t-shirt and said "It feels like a holster to me." I got a good laugh out of it, raised my t-shirt and showed him, "Yes, it IS holster - a cell phone in a mouse gun holster." ' Got a verbal warning over no use of turn signal, then on my way ...

Coincidently, the same cop showed up a week or so later to do the paperwork just after sunrise when my next-door neighbor and I discovered some overninght vandalism to our vehicles parked in the street. When asked for ID, I showed him both DL and CHL. He asked "Do you have a gun on you?". I responded, "Yes sir, on my right hip." He said "Would you please put it back in your house." I complied, knowing that he was on-site to "protect" me. :rolleyes: There are probably a few more of his kind out there. :(
 
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