"Weird Sign at NRA Convention in Orlando" ???

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I received an email from my friend who attended this weekend the NRA Convention in Orlando.

Upon entering the convention center, he saw a sign that read only "licensed law enforcement" can carry a weapon into the NRA convention.

He had to return to his vehicle to secure his CCW before entering the NRA convention.

What?

My friend, who has a Florida CCW permit, cannot carry his weapon into a NRA convention?

What the heck is going on?

:uhoh: :what: :scrutiny:

It seems to me that NRA should set the standard and promote the lawful carrying of concealed weapons.

My friend said to me what if an "ANTI" took a picture of that sign?

The "ANTI" could use it show show that even the NRA does not "trust" its own people to carry firearms.

Does anyone know anything more about this "weird" sign at the NRA convention?

I am really confused as to why this sign was posted at the NRA convention.

:what: :what: :what:

Just my 2 cents...
 
Was the sign posted by the NRA, or by the convention center? NRA probably didn't have anything to do with the sign, I bet it was a permanent sign posted by the management of the convention center.
 
Say it ain't so!

Someone needs to get Wayne LaPierre on the phone and determine the veracity of this claim. And here I was thinking of renewing my NRA membership, maybe even spring for a life membership.

"Gun-free zone." Who's that sign for anyway? I suspect that the only people who would obey such a sign are the peeps you don't have to worry about in the first place.

How about a sign that reads "Thank you for not going postal."
 
Good question "C" -- I don't know.

He said the sign was about 2 x 3 feet and was placed in a stainless steel sign holder about 4 feet high just as you entered the convention center.

Did any other THR member go to the NRA convention, and did you see this sign?

:confused: :confused: :confused:
 
In my view this is easy to explain. A really militant anti could join the NRA and obtain a Carry License. Then, he could have just walked up and shot Charlton Heston and proclaimed--"See, I told you that those guns were dangerous and would kill you in the end". Michael "Delta Alpha" Moore even says he's an NRA member. Anyway, I view it as a good precaution.

KR
 
A good precaution, eh?

So you think that sign did anything at all to prevent the hypothetical situation you envision?
 
Ky Rifle...

...come on, now...come on....
you don't expect me to believe a far out conspiracy theory like that, do you?;)
 
Sigh...Always someone...

No Tim...
In reality, I don't believe a sign would prevent a determined killer from doing his job. However, I do think it would have prevented a "Richard Reid" or other some such, "less than smart" person from doing the deed. OK? You really have no idea what is on my mind. If you're looking for an argument, look elsewhere. I don't feel like it today.

KR
 
Kentucky rifle said: In my view this is easy to explain. A really militant anti could join the NRA and obtain a Carry License. Then, he could have just walked up and shot Charlton Heston and proclaimed--"See, I told you that those guns were dangerous and would kill you in the end". Michael "Delta Alpha" Moore even says he's an NRA member. Anyway, I view it as a good precaution.
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So none of the cops that are allowed to carry might be a Anti ? As a general rule Cops are no more level headed and deserveing of trust than a normal person.

How ever if you think they really are a cut above the rest of us, you may be cut out to be a Cop.

All it takes is a short course designed to pass as many "recruits" as possible then you to can be part of the ruling class.
 
Kentucky Rifle said: No Tim..No Tim...
In reality, I don't believe a sign would prevent a determined killer from doing his job. However, I do think it would have prevented a "Richard Reid" or other some such, "less than smart" person from doing the deed. OK? You really have no idea what is on my mind. If you're looking for an argument, look elsewhere. I don't feel like it today.
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Please tell us whats on your mind!! How would this sign have stopped Richard Reid? Opon seeing the sign....he would have given up his plan to Kill Mr Heston because?
 
Some convention centers do not allow CCW.

Some CCW laws exclude sports arenas and convention centers.

Insurance?

I surely hope its one of the above scenarios.
 
The sign was unenforceable. Florida law specifies very clearly where CCL is not allowed. Those places include only the following:
Any place of nuisance as defined in s. 823.05

* any police, sheriff, or highway patrol station;
* any detention facility, prison, or jail;
* any courthouse; any courtroom, except that nothing in this section would preclude a judge from carrying a concealed weapon or determining who will carry a concealed weapon in his or her courtroom;
* any polling place;
* any meeting of the governing body of a county, public school district, municipality, or special district;
* any meeting of the Legislature or a committee thereof;
* any school, college, or professional athletic event not related to firearms;
* any school administration building;
* any portion of an establishment licensed to dispense alcoholic beverages for consumption on the premises, which portion of the establishment is primarily devoted to such purpose;
* any elementary or secondary school facility;
* any area vocational-technical center;
* any college or university facility unless the licensee is a registered student, employee, or faculty member of such college or university and the weapon is a stun gun or nonlethal electric weapon or device designed solely for defensive purposes and the weapon does not fire a dart or projectile;
* inside the passenger terminal and sterile area of any airport, provided that no person shall be prohibited from carrying any legal firearm into the terminal, which firearm is encased for shipment for purposes of checking such firearm as baggage to be lawfully transported on any aircraft; or
* any place where the carrying of firearms is prohibited by federal law
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If the sign was actually posted, my guess is that the NRA decided to try to disarm its members, since Florida law does not prohibit CCL at a convention center.
 
It was the convention center's rules.

The same thing happened when the NRA convention was here in Seattle. The thing is this--if you had been caught carrying on the premises, the worse thing that could have happened was that the convention center staff would have told you to leave.
 
The NRA meeting was at the same plae that SHOT show was at back in Feb. The same sign was up at the SHOT show. I'm pretty sure the sign belongs to the Convention center.
 
It was the convention center's rules.

So the NRA decided to contract with a convention center that maintains a "gun-free zone" policy. I wonder whose bright idea that was.....
 
My friend told me he NEVER expected to see such a "no guns" sign at the NRA convention.

In fact, he had to walk about 2 blocks to return to his vehicle, and he had to leave his Glock locked in his glove compartment to comply with the posted sign.

He was worried the whole time that someone would break into his car and steal his Glock!

:cuss: :cuss: :cuss:

On a related note, he said the NRA expo was great -- except for not being able to carry his CCW with his Florida permit into the NRA convention.

Did any one else go to the Orlando NRA convention, and did you see this "no guns except for LEOs" sign?

:confused: :confused: :confused:
 
So the NRA decided to contract with a convention center that maintains a "gun-free zone" policy. I wonder whose bright idea that was.....
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The problem I believe is that most places that are available for rent that you could hold a NRA convention in probably have many of the same rules, i.e., no carry. I know here in Indy at the big gun and knife show they have a large orange sign that says NO LOADED GUNS. Maybe the next time the NRA is in your area you could offer to hold it at your house and let everyone carry. That would be cool.

On a side note did anyone see the episode of the Simpsons where Homer and his family go to the NRA convention? Everyone had to walk through the metal detectors and everyone set it off as they walked through. Then one person went through and did not set it off so they made him go back through with a gun in his hand.
 
The problem I believe is that most places that are available for rent that you could hold a NRA convention in probably have many of the same rules, i.e., no carry.

There are plenty of large hotels that do not have signs proclaiming "gun-free zones." The NRA should put its foot down, and be willing to vote with its dollars if need be. I've attended many professional conventions at hotels without ever encountering a "no gun" sign. Maybe it's because I live in Texas.
 
Folks, once again. . . .

Other than those places specifically listed in Florida law as off-limits, there is NOWHERE in Florida that is off-limits to CCW. There is NO provision in FL law for a sign such as the one mentioned and FL hotels, convention centers, etc. know it. I have never seen such a sign in the state of Florida because it carries NO weight.


If the sign was there, it was there because the NRA wanted it.
 
What KCustom said is generally true - remember all such venues are private property.... Of course the NRA could always hold it's annual convention in giant tents out on the Louisiana bayou (and who knows, it might be a lotta fun!) but it kinda defeats one of the purposes, which is to demonstrate publicly that no matter where they hold it - a LOT of members show up.
 
Why don't they just put up a sign that says, "No murder allowed"?

pax

Putting up no-gun-zone signs in the expectation that it will stop a murderer is akin to hanging garlic in your window to ward off vampires. -- "Karansas" on TFL
 
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