What appeals to new shooters

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Had an interesting time at my range yesterday. A friend who had just bought his first handgun asked about coming out to shoot so of course I invited him. He came witha friend who had limited experience with a variety of handguns but did not own any himself. I am usually shooting with experienced shooters so I was curious how this all would go.

My friend brought his new S&W Sigma 9mm, which he bought mostly because it was cheap (about $300 new). He shot it pretty well, and to its credit it went through about 200 rounds with no any failures (all FMJ).

The Sigma had about the worst trigger I have ever pulled, but I noticed that my friend had no issues with it because he had no other experience, and just thought all pistols were like that. The pull was so heavy I actually thought at first there was something wrong with it.

I then set out, for their sampling, a Springfield EMP (9mm), a Glock 23 (.40) and a Colt Commander XSE (.45) and watched their reactions. We shot paper targets, then tried multiple steel targets.

First, with the Colt and the EMP they got a bit wide-eyed when they found out what a trigger can be. Neither objected to recoil in the .45. Neither was particulary fond of the Glock.

The EMP was the clear hit of the day -- both kept coming back to it for more. They remarked on the small size of grip, the good trigger and both shot it very well. I predict that I sold at least one EMP from this session.

Very interesting to see people with no pre-conceived notions about caliber, polymer-vs-steel, Glock-vs-1911, react to the various pistols. I saw that if you have not shot a good trigger you have no issues with a bad one. Also, notwithstanding the endless debate about relative recoil, these guys found little practical difference in recoil among the calibers (the heavy .45 vs the light EMP 9mm may have contributed to that).
 
I had a similar experience Easter weekend. Went to an outdoor gun range with my cousin (an experienced shooter); we invited his daughter and 3 of her friends (2m/2f). The four are all in the early 20's and had little to no prior experience. One couple are Brits and had never held a "real" gun. The sampling we had for them were: S&W M&P40, S&W1911PD .45acp, S&W1006 10mm, S&W 686 loaded with .38 Spcl, and Ruger Alaskan with both .45 Colt and .454 Casull.

Of course all the guys had to try the Casulls, but one or two rounds were enough. They all shot the Alaskan with .45 Colts comfortably. All four shot everything surprisingly well - 7 yrd targets and all rounds but a few were on paper. Three of them gravitated to the 1911 and by the end of our couple hours one of the guys was shooting 2" groups with it (two hand, no support). Both guys, when asked to rank the guns, put them very close to their order of new retail price (ranging from the $500 M&P to the $1,200 1911, using very round figures). Nobody considered any of the loads - other than the Casulls - intimidating.
 
Heh, check the sig line. If you overly cation someone about felt recoil, you may inadvertently cause them to feel more subjective recoil because now they are looking for it. I think I did that with my Airweight Smith, after I warned my friend (who's moderately experienced) about the increased recoil felt with the lite snubs.

Anyway, I think new shooters really don't know what they want until they've experienced a proper sampling, thus have something to base off of. Usually, after a range session their "favorite" will go from the gun they wanted to shoot before I took them shooting (usually the Glock), to whatever they felt they shot the best with. Nothing like the pride of competency to change one's mind.
 
i can understand your friends feeling about trigger pull. First smokeless powder handgun i ever owned was a SA XD and i thought the trigger was fine, having nothing to compare it to. My friend didn't like it at all, but most of his pistols have had significant time with a gun smith to customize things like trigger pull. of course i made the mistake of shooting one of his favorite custom 1911's and now the trigger pull on the XD sucks ;)
 
In my experience, new shooters that I take out like these 3 things...in order:


  1. (And this is number one by a huge landslide) A decent 22 autoloader (ruger, buckmark or whatever) combined with reactive targets. By far that is what most have commented on when shooting with me. My last girlfriend hated pistols. I put her on a buckmark and taught her the basics once she was having fun, now she likes shooting anything with a trigger. She also comments when triggers are "crunchy" or "nice." IMO, after they learn the basics on the 22, they don't even notice the recoil if they are getting hits. If they feel recoil and see their mark several inches off of their bulls-eye, they get disheartened quickly.
  2. Shotguns and skeet.
  3. AR15
 
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