What is too tacticool?

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Interesting, amuseing perhaps but not "Jarring" so he wants to dress up in funny clothes and shoot a tricked out gun. Nothin wrong with that.

Now picture in your mind a guy in faded torn blue jeans and a ripped t-shirt, he hasn't shaved for what looks like 6 weeks and has ever so greasy hair and hes shooting a Remington 700 off the bench.

Jarring?

lol

-DR
 
Yeah dito I see it all the time too, the point is that it doesn't matter how people dress or what they do to their fire arm (as long as its safe). The important thing is that they are shooting!

-DR
 
I try, I really try not to be judgemental of shooters. The tacticool types often get me down because they show up looking like the gun rag editors dressed them, a regular Peter J. Kokalis sideshow they are. So they spent their money and it made them happy. All too often though you will get cornered and they will tell you everything they know. The thought they know nothing never occurs to them. My most common interaction is to correct safety problems, little stuff like loading up behind the firing line, a sure fire way to improve my humor. Can't tell them anything about gun handling, they are all knowing!

Here is a great tacticool interaction story, courtesy of some actual tactical types. A nearby USPSA match often used to draw a few Delta guys from southern NC. They brought their Ranger buddies with them at one point, some of whom were rusty with the pistol. I was RO'ing shooters in my squad and that rustiness led me to politely ask one to refrain from pointing his pistol at his stomach the next time he cleared a malfunction. That wasn't tacticool though, but the next stage was, 40 some round field course and they are going forward of the shooter and scoring/taping targets while the shooter is still finishing up 10 yards away. I asked them to refrain from that, which they did, with the comment that they were just back from afghanistan and were used to 360 deg fire in close confines to each other. I had to comment that we frowned on 360 deg fire in our current setting. Good group of guys, last saw them at a match in early 2003, sporting a satellite phone and full beards, answered the phone and left mid-match, hope they are still okay and doing their thing.

Now an example of tacticool that makes me puke :barf: I live in an area with 80,000 military and a pretty large spec-ops community. I have shot with SEALs, talked with them, bought and sold guns with them. (Be very afraid when one comments that the #1.5 single stage trigger on the Rem 700 you are selling him is "a little heavy :D ) I know people that work for Blackhawk, got a tour of the place. I try to shoot a lot and be knowledgeable.

Through a fair amount of casual interaction of this sort I still show no desire to act like or pass myself off as a SEAL. Unfortunately, many others do. One fellow is a nice guy, works in a Tactical gear store, goes to gun schools and such. He came to a three gun match at one point with his shorty AR, 18 rails of fury, 3-point sling, tac vest and C-mag. We smoked him.
So, I see him late last year and he is rolling with tricked up Glocks(no harm no foul, I work on my Glocks too) Maximum rooney AR (EOTech, AN/PEQ designator, Surefire Foregrip, etc....) That didn't bother me, after all I have an A2 configuration AR with an ACOG and dressed up in Bowflage warpaint. What got me was the peltor electronic muffs with boom mike and ICS cord, the drop thigh holster, the drop thigh AR mag pouch, the latest load bearing gear with the belt line covered up with mag pouches, dump bags, gi-normous Strider knife sticking out of all of it, it went on and on. I gave him the benefit of the doubt, later asked someone who would know if he had gotten hired on with Blackwater and was getting sent out. Nope, just this guy being this guy, nice guy, okay shooter, but a huge gear queer wannabe.

Now this bothers me why? Few persons that go to that level of dress-up have the integrity to say they just like buying gear when questioned about their affiliations. Their existence is an affront to people who really do wear that gear when doing their job. Furthermore, being in an area with so many real deal people the dress-ups must know that others at least assume they are super secret dreaded deadly demons of darkness. In a word, I find it dishonest.



Now me, am I too tacticool? I like my Blackwater hat. I like it because someone I respect gave it to me for helping run shooting matches. People ask if I work there (nope) or train there(not yet), I am quick to point out I just shoot pistol matches there and it was my home club while I had time to compete. Hopefully again soon. Now chances are if I am wearing a Dillon shirt and Blackwater hat I am not carrying or at a shooting event because I know this says gun to some people. See me in a race car t-shirt and greasy race car hat? Hmmmm. I wear a riggers belt. Why? 4 years old, holds up lots of gun, pants too, very tough. I have exactly too people ask me what I did for a living based on it. Quickly, "just an airplane mechanic". Never bothered to tell the last one I was carrying two guns as he led me on a little guided tour of some land a mile into the woods, he was a probation officer sporting a Glock, I figured I might as well have mine too. My wife sometimes questions why I carry, I asked her how she would have felt going into the woods far from home with this fella had she not known what was inside my leather coat. (Coronado Leather, now there is tactical, not Tacticool, nobody ever sees that as a gun carrier flag). Other than that it is jeans and a T-shirt. My "tactical" pants came from Bass Pro because the zip-off legs rock! I am sure some would consider me a little too tactical, probably the same old revolver guy that thinks an 8 shot revolver is an assault weapon. But, what I do is quite low key and it is me. So, to me tacticool is:

Trying to be someone you are not.
 
Tacticool is over-analyzing what other people have on their guns, how they dress and fretting about it on the Internet.
 
Tacticool is over-analyzing what other people have on their guns, how they dress and fretting about it on the Internet.

Yup. If you are safe, you are OK to shoot with me whether you wear jeans, 5.11's, a business suit or camo. As long as you wear pants of SOME kind... :D
 
I admit to being tacticool when I was an early teenager. For a year or two I wore full woodland BDU's until they fell apart, and then realized how strange I looked.

HOWEVER, I think there's a difference between being "tacticool" (which I define as getting stuff just because it's tactical, or how it looks) and wearing gear for legitimate reasons. I currently:

Wear a woodland boonie I've had since the above-mentioned BDU phase on sunny days (walking, sailing, shopping, etc). It's a great sun hat and now faded as hell.

Wear Hi-Tec Magnum boots when I need a really comfy shoe.

Wear a web belt with a 1qt. canteen outside on hot days. Got some strange looks whist sightseeing in the city a while back.

Wear '70s Mickey Mouse boots in deep winter. Again, a comfy and warm boot.

Have a Realtree camo Zippo. Hindsight being 20/20 that was now a bad choice since it's impossible to find if you drop it in the woods.

I also carry two knifes (Swiss Army and a short locking folder) and usually a flashlight.

Do these things make me tacticool? I hope not. I usually just wear clean long jeans or khaki shorts, with a dark tee shirt, and either sneakers or Teva-type sandals. Don't own any fancy optics or anything with a rail.
 
silly dude at THR shoot.

At the last THR shoot in Northern ca. Some guy showed up wearing an ammo belt, black goves and combat boots. It was like 85 degrees. Funny. Then he takes my AK traininer and shoots it sideways. I was nice though. he was with one of us. But he was the butt of jokes from my buddys for some time.

he also told me any Glock, not in 9mm was dangerous. And lots and lots of tactical advice. this guy had hair longer than my wife and had never Been in ant related field. But I was nice. The VA anger management classes must be working.
 
I'm obviously not tacticool enough. I don't even know what some of this gear is that you guys speak of.

My biggest Mod is a P239 with rubber grips and my shooting uniform is a pair of shorts and a tee shirt with some sneakers or even flipflops.

I will be sporting the boonie hat from time to time, but just to keep the sun from burning my bald head. They are cheap and available everywhere.

Of course, as dressed down as I am, is it too much using the camo face paint? ;)
 
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I need to get a tri-rail so I can put a flashlight and laser on it. Maybe a scope mount and a nice red dot too. And then a silencer . :)

Almost forgot the single point sling.
 
"Tacticool" is...

1) When you've got 40,000 rounds of .223 in the basement and $4k sunk into your AR in case of TEOTEWAKI, but you won't take Basic First Aid or CPR, or even carry a band aid in your pocket, because "blood is icky!" and you don't have so much as an extra can of lima beans in the pantry in case of a power outage.
2) You try to fit one of those German surplus flack overvests that isn't even remotely bullet resistant that you got from Sportsman's Guide for $50 under your everyday clothes, particularly dress shirts.
3) The clerk at your regular range sees you come in, and charges your credit card in advance for every florescent bulb in the entire building, to be refunded if you fail to shoot them out by accident via riccochets off your target carrier.
4) You wear a 17 inch survival knife and/or bayonet on your belt to the range, so that at target change, if you've failed to hit the target in a "vital area", you can "finish it off".
5) You've devoted 1800 hours over the past year to refining your bug out strategy for TEOTEWAKI on various internet message boards, and it still starts: "Jack bug out vehicle off blocks, remove any large shrubs/small trees growing in/on same..."
6) Said bug out vehicle is your late Grandmother's 1990 Mercury Topaz.
7) You put on your tac vest/LBE when full of loaded magazines, etc, and immediately experience a double hernia.
8) You show up at your range, and the Range Officers are former Marine Corps DI's who can't stop laughing at your attire and/or performance. You shift the 6 foot sword slung across your back to a more comfortable position and continue shooting your .460 Weatherby Mag without ear protection untill you can no longer hear the snickers.
 
You're behind the times. Titanium sporks are a dozen times more tactical than spoons.

OK...I'll admit this on an open forum...I actually bought a titanium spork.

I have this love of titanium stuff and happened across a titanium spork and just had to get it. I travel a lot so I carry it with me in my laptop bag.

I might even get to eat baklava with it some time.
 
I've seen that.

That crosses the line from "tacticool", or even "tacticlol", to "stupid".

You can't stick a red dot in front of a scope like that!
 
5) You've devoted 1800 hours over the past year to refining your bug out strategy for TEOTEWAKI on various internet message boards, and it still starts: "Jack bug out vehicle off blocks, remove any large shrubs/small trees growing in/on same..."
6) Said bug out vehicle is your late Grandmother's 1990 Mercury Topaz.

1990?

I've got my 'TEOTWAWKI vehicle' tactically positioned right outside the front door, ready to escape and evade (well, almost). Right now it mainly serves as our tornado shelter because it is glued down pretty damn good. :eek: It should withstand an F4, being so round and aerodynamic and all. :D

I really need to free it up long enough to re-position it for a more rapid escape if the zombies attack... :p I read on the internet that the tire whitewalls confuse a Zombie's un-dead vision as they rotate. That is the tactical edge I'm betting my life on.

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BTW, I actually took that pic myself in NE AL last summer. When I saw it I just had to throw on the brakes and back up. Ah just knowed that some day it would be worth posting somewhere. :p
 
O.K, clearly I need to raise the bar here...
"Tacticool" is when you own anything with a vernier tang sight and you replace it with with a compact ACOG. It's "Double Decret Tacticool" if the weapon was manufactured before 1930.

Now, for one I've done... If you've worn one of the IMI/Action Arms micro UZI's in that shoulder rig, (where the UZI snaps on to the stud through the rear of the grip frame) that was "Retro Tacticool". It only counts if you did it before 1998, and you watched at least two Miami Vice reruns while wearing it. Triple bonus score if you lived at home with your mother when you did it. Double your triple bonus score if you drove a 1993 or earlier Camaro at the time. God, this should be a boardgame, THR could fund itself selling it, and it'd be a blast at parties. ;)
 
I'll see your tacticool, and raise you one single-shot, break action shotgun with a surefire flashlight mounted on the underside of the barrel with a pair of old scope riser rings. This weapon is currently my go-to choice for home defense.
 
How many of you in this thread spend more money on guns and gagets every year than you do on professional training?
 
... sunglasses (at an indoor range, nonetheless) ....
I am guilty of this as I find it a very effective way to practice in low light while protecting my eyes. My shooting glasses are a pair of Rudy Project Ekonyx frames with swappable outer polycarbonate lenses and the ability to use Rx inserts. While I usually use the clear lenses, I sometimes use the dark lenses with my Rx inserts at a local indoor range. I can also practice for both day and night just by swapping the outer lenses. I also have two Rx inserts, one optimized for pistols and one for shotguns.
 
I do shacklemenot. And you just made me think about it. Weird, I harrass people who buys our trained dogs and dont keep up training. And yet. I have only gone to one class, since I left the Army last year. And it sucked.

Its not a money or time thing with me. Its a I am not motivated thing. Good call dude.

I think I will go buy strider knife with laser on it. Just to make myself feel better.
 
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