What's up with all of the SHTF threads?

[R.W.Dale]

I've a member of various other forums with thousands of posts and I cannot figure out whats up with all of the SHTF threads on THR I have never even seen the term before coming here. The only SHTF I'm seriously worried about is the kind that involves a gas station burrito a lack of TP coupled with a malfunctioning celing fan.

 

[wingnutx]

They're fun.

Also, sometimes the S does HTF. It sure did in New Orleans.

 

[rick_reno]

Thanksgiving cooks around the nation have been buying up all the available tinfoil stock - the shortage has resulted in some THR members hearing voices, getting transmissions and having their dogs talk to them about dire future events. Things should return to normal in a few weeks, once the holidays have passed.

 

[adaman04]

Maybe if some of the folks in NO, LA had done some of these stupid scenarios, we wouldn't have to be down there wiping so many a$$es. Don't get me wrong, those people needed A LOT of help. But, should any able-bodied person have been completely helpless? No. Just because I keep plenty of ammo and food and water in the house should I need it doesn't make me an idiot or a worrier. It's called being prepared. You shouldn't wear your seatbelt either, because what are the real chances you're going to have an accident? See my point?

 

[R.W.Dale]

Maybe if some of the folks in NO, LA had done some of these stupid scenarios, we wouldn't have to be down there wiping so many a$$es. Don't get me wrong, those people needed A LOT of help. But, should any able-bodied person have been completely helpless? No. Just because I keep plenty of ammo and food and water in the house should I need it doesn't make me an idiot or a worrier. It's called being prepared. You shouldn't wear your seatbelt either, because what are the real chances you're going to have an accident? See my point?

No.

 

[Waffen]

I think the point he is trying to make is when the S does HTF there is much more to worry about than if you should use your AR or AK, or if you should bring the 1903, or Mosin Nagant.

I too find it redicilous at some of the posts on here. Some of the things I have seen on here down right scare me. I know that I will be prepared if something does happen, but why the hell do I need to bother with "should I shoot Wolf FMJ or XM109"? In case anyone noticed New Orleans is a little bit different than Iraq.

I was hoping these threads would stop with the start of school, but I have been let down.

It's all over when I see "Hornady 165 interlocks or 150gr Sierra Gamekings for urban SHTF" in the reloading forum. These days it feels like the only forum that is safe from these posts.

 

[R.W.Dale]

I think the point he is trying to make is when the S does HTF there is much more to worry about than if you should use your AR or AK, or if you should bring the 1903, or Mosin Nagant.

I too find it redecilous at some of the posts on here. Some of the things I have seen on here down right scare me. I know that I will be prepared if something does happen, but why the hell do I need to bother with "should I shoot Wolf FMJ or XM109"?

I was hoping these threads would stop with the start of school, but I have been let down.

It's all over when I see "Hornady 165 interlocks or 150gr Sierra Gamekings for urban SHTF" in the reloading forum. These days it feels like thats all that is safe.

OK Now I catch what he is saying. But it still doesn't explain all of the SHTF pretaining to firearms.

 

[Waffen]

OK Now I catch what he is saying. But it still doesn't explain all of the SHTF pretaining to firearms.

No I wasn't defending his point. I was trying to defend yours. Maby I got it all wrong though. I'll make it short and sweet. SHTF threads are pretty dumb IMO.

 

[Pilot]

Terorrism, oil shortages, natural disasters all make people uncertain. It calms one to order a couple thousand rounds of 5.45, 7.62 or 5.56. I know it helped me.

 

[Waffen]

People who stockpile rounds and guns for the sole purpose of anticipating a government collapse flat out scare me. I shoot and reload because it's my passion. It's on a byproduct that I might be better prepared than somone else in a disaster.

 

[sm]

Yes, this is a firearm site.

There is more to responsible firearm ownership - than firearms.-me

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SHTF , Serious Situations, Be Prepared, Self Reliant, and other terms describe an Attitude, and Mindset that has always been around throughout history.

There has always been another take on dealing with Life's Journey's and the difficulties one may face. Dependency

The Internet is a facinating Medium. Communication is faster, and reaches Globally. For many, the Interaction with others in various regions of same Country, Allow them to learn and share how to deal with Life's Difficulties. WE do this on a Global Scale as well.

I, like many others grew up with firearms in the house, Baking Soda near the Stove for cooking fires, garden hose attached to exterior faucett in case of fires - especially if a lightening storm was going on. Later Fire extinguishers in the home, smoke alarms....

Tornados are popular in my area. Growing up we were raised Having Food, Water, Method to cook with, First aid supplies, lanterns flashights, batteries, ,...etc, just what one did.

I recall when the Cuban Missle Crisis happened - I was young, I remember all the extra precautions taken by adults. Communism was a concern. Preservation of Freedoms were Always a Concern - no matter what Gov't may pose a threat. Against all Enemies Foreign or Domestic...

TFL set the bar for ALL internet forums, THR sprung forth when TFL closed for a bit.

Training is stressed a LOT on TFL and THR. NOT all of which has to do with firearms.

Denny for instance used his TRAINING and Practiced Skills in a SHTF - to escape with his Grandson thru the blazing Hell that minutes before was his home. House Fire.
A firearm was not his tool for survival. His mindset and training were.

As seen in history, we today see more Gubmint is supposed to take care of me, I am trusting my Gubmint , Local Policeman, Local Fire Dept, Charity Organizations are SUPPOSED to save me / bail me out.

THR has STHF - "What Ifs", threads to share experience strength and hope for those Self Reliant, Self Responsible and Educate Lurkers, and hopefully by Attraction to what Lurkers read, Fence sitters will better understand firearms and Firearm Owners.

Regards,

Steve

 

[NineseveN]

Why would it bother you if others are concerned about preparing for unforseen circumstances ans wish to discuss it with like-minded folks?

 

[torpid]

What's up with all of the SHTF threads?

I've a member of various other forums with thousands of posts and I cannot figure out whats up with all of the SHTF threads on THR I have never even seen the term before coming here.

Wait... so all the anti-zombie threads are unremarkable to you?


Seriously though, I think Katrina made people even more aware of the possibility of disaster scenarios popping up rather suddenly, and the discussions have taken off quite a bit since.
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[HI express]

Mental exercise

Hi krochus,
Been in the unarmed self-defense field for over 46 years now. Preparing the mind and body for real life is paramount to you to help you survive. The idea is to have the mind clear and not confuzzled when TSHTF. One of the ways to be prepared is practice, practice, practice. One of the practices is the mind exercises which we do in discussing SHTF scenarios.

In the gun culture, the condition to be in as discussed often in these forums is codition white. There are many examples of people being caught in different states of mind and still surviving confrontations but when your life is on the line and/or the ones that you care for, you want the edge to be on your side.

Join us, it is fun.

 

[roscoe]

I find them highly entertaining - you see a lot of people talking about how they are going to carry their 1911 with 200 rounds, plus their night-vision equipped AR with 500 rounds (77-grain Mk 262 only, of course), plus a Becker Combat 7, plus canned food for three weeks. Carrying a mere 200 lbs. of ammo and food, they will stalk lone-wolf style, with black face paint, taking out the gangs of mutants who will be naturally clad in black leather and hockey gear and sport mohawk haircuts.

Me, I worry what would happen if I were to run out of size 4 Huggies for my daughter. Then the S really does HTF. I stock up on ammo AND diapers! Anything else is secondary!

 

[Spiggy]

ICSH & HTF posts with zombie incursions could easily be a result of the recent rash of horror films featuring zombie incursions. (28 Days Later, George A Romero zombie flicks, Resident Evil, etc)

Unlikely scenarios but in case of natural disaster, it helps to have plans. It just so happens a lot of them include nightvision equipted AR-15's for some odd reason

 

[71Commander]

Unlikely scenarios but in case of natural disaster, it helps to have plans. It just so happens a lot of them include nightvision equipted AR-15's for some odd reason

Not me. I have an FAL.

 

[bachman1961]

What if ... ...

krochus;
To me, I view the SHTF text as What if training. Often times the subject matter deals with a situation, real or hyped-up-thetical but some of the stories are very realisitc situations and I usually learn something or at least they get me thinking. It's not much different than me driving my car. I'm always thinking 'what if' in case a vehicle crosses the line.. ..what's my OUT ?? --- just trying to be prepared but not quite paranoid. When I see the SHTF in the text, I go to check it out. In your case, you may easily avoid those if they don't involve digestive tract experiences ..

By the way, few can compete with your fearlessness if you subsist on regular outings involving Gas Station Burritos.. .. your fear knows no bounds.

 

[Firethorn]

if you subsist on regular outings involving Gas Station Burritos.. .. your fear knows no bounds.

I'd say that he knows no fear.

As for the SHTF scenarios, well, they amount to planning scenarios. If everybody ascribed to the planning mentioned within, NO would have been no big deal.

A: People would have left
B: Built on higher ground
C: Had their own stocks of food, water and such, so that three days until aid arrives isn't a big deal. I mean, don't most families stock more or less for at least a week's worth of food?
D: Because this is a gun forum, have the means to resist looters/other criminals.

Much of the SHTF scenarios is pure wanking, but that's fun.
For the economically minded, there's all sorts of advice on how to prepare for emergencies/disasters on a budget.

 

[Mixlesplick]

When the millenium hit I stocked up on toilet paper and some extra water. I didn't expect the computers to all shut down but I knew if everything came to a standstill I did not want to run out of tp.

Be prepared.

 

[benEzra]

It's a fun intellectual exercise, mostly. But one that may occasionally have actual practical applications as well.

 

[El Tejon]

SHTF is a manifestation of the Peter Pan syndrome that permeates the gun culture. The hysterical handwringing over bears and pumas are also tied into the Peter Pan syndrome.

Playing dress up and slaying dragons is a welcome alternative to dealing with reality.

 

[bogie]

I knew if everything came to a standstill I did not want to run out of tp.

Uh... If everything comes to a standstill, you don't need to worry about TP...

I look at ammo as something that it's better to have, and not need, than to need, and not have.

Societal breakdown is a fact. Bureaucracy moves slowly, and in event of bad nastiness happening, we have to fend for ourselves. This is merely an updated facet of the survivalist movement that sprung up in the fifties/sixties...

 

[6inch]

I think it may be as simple as people feeling the need to have some control over the unknown, or the what if factor, brought on by 9/11/'01.

Just a thought.

 

[Pilot]

People who stockpile rounds and guns for the sole purpose of anticipating a government collapse flat out scare me. I shoot and reload because it's my passion. It's on a byproduct that I might be better prepared than somone else in a disaster.

I don't understand the difference here. You always have a comfortable number of rounds on hand, yet want to preach about people who buy ammo to keep for an emergency.

I reload also and shoot my reloads and factory ammo regularly. I try to keep a number of rounds on hand for range work and/or an emergency. I really don't see a difference in my philosophy and yours except you have to attempt to degrade others for their habits.