who says "no lead in glocks", I see no reason not.

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I still cant see how you can compare the price of shooting plated to lead. I mean myself i like to shoot and whenever i can but 2000 lead bullets for the price of 1000 plated my glocks gonna get some lead.
 
why is it all these manufacturers tell us not to shoot lead through these barrels, are they ignorant and lacking experience?
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Why is it that ALL manufacturers suggest not shooting reloads period? Think it might be a liability concern? I believe so.

If it doesn't lead in the barrel, it cant just magically go kaboom. Not even realistic to say that it will just blow up without signs of pressure or excessive leading.

As far as that goes any gun can kaboom with excessive leading, not just polygonal rifled barrels.

Does anybody on here have a PERSONAL experience with a kaboom resulting from lead in glocks?
 
Skylerbone said:
We've been through this issue plenty of times. Questioning valid research and results is counter-productive.
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I'd love to read that valid research, got a link to it that's not just a collection of anecdotes from anonymous sources on the Internet?
 
We've been through this issue plenty of times. Questioning valid research and results is counter-productive.
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I think personal experience and my OWN research with my OWN results is very productive. It means I am trying things to come to a better end result for me, and not being passive and taking what some guy on the internet claims to be fact.

like I said unless YOU have a personal experience with it, your just repeating what you hear.
 
...why is it all these manufacturers tell us not to shoot lead through these barrels, are they ignorant and lacking experience?
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For the same reason they tell you not to use reloads of any kind - their liability lawyers have decided lead bullets and reloads are both a "risk" - and the warning helps in reducing their liability insurance premiums.

Lead bullets because of previous experience (the Accurate No.5 powder / .40 S&W +P problem) and reloads because they're not sure the smaller ammunition manufacturers who provide most of the reloads AND home reloaders have QC procedures that document the loads being to SAAMI standards.

Not that all of that means much with the ammunition recalls by major manufacturers of ammunition being released that also doesn't meet SAAMI standards...
 
Add me to the list of people who shoot a lot of lead reloads in stock Glock barrels.

I load carefully, check for leading every 100 or 200 or so rounds, and have never had a problem. Not even close!

Thousands of lead rounds later, and after reading the opinions of people with no experience with shooting lead in Glocks, I have to think that the advice not to shoot lead in Glock barrels is the correct thing for Glock to say.

Too many people do not understand WHY something might be dangerous and believe all kinds of internet pseudo-knowledge. It is much safer to keep these people away from anything that requires care or judgement-hence the requirement for factory, non-lead ammo only.

Bob
 
I've done it too, and it's just not worth the trouble. (regardless of lead build-up)

Lead bullets run dirty; not just because of the leading, but because of the lube burning and leaving soot and such.
 
Glock’s published disclaimers explicitly state usage of un-jacketed bullets and reloaded ammunition voids the warranty. Since you’ve already voided the warranty why worry about lead bullets.

I have thrown caution to the wind by reloading but I’m still reluctant to use lead bullets in the OEM barrel. All the weasel wording usage in regards to lead bullet hardness, heel type, cleaning intervals and etcetera is not on my to do list.:what:;)

I simply avoided those issues by using aftermarket barrels such as Bar-Sto or KKM.:)
 
I have thrown caution to the wind by reloading but I’m still reluctant to use lead bullets in the OEM barrel. All the weasel wording usage in regards to lead bullet hardness, heel type, cleaning intervals and etcetera is not on my to do list.

I simply avoided those issues by using aftermarket barrels such as Bar-Sto or KKM
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That's my attitude as well. I bought a KKM .40 conversion barrel for my 29. It allows me to use cheaper factory ammo, small primers, range brass and lead bullets without worry.

I don't understand people who refuse to reload because of voiding the Glock warranty. My goodness, doesn't anyone color outside the lines anymore?
 
When I have dealt with gun makers who do claim that shooting non-jacketed and non-jacketed rounds void their warranty ... None of them ever even raised the question ... Much less wouldn not work on the gun. Granted this was EAA and Colt ... But I really do not think the makers care as much as some members here believe.
Unless your barrel is grossly leaded, or obviously blew up from a quadruple charge I really do not think you voided your warranty.
 
You win. If all the blown up Glocks pictured in thread after thread both here and elsewhere weren't blown up by me then none of my points are valid. If I haven't fired lead through a Glock it's because I'm a bad loader and need to purchase what I shoot. I suppose if Glock issues a recall and it's not issued by me it will be nothing but Internet speculation.

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25+ years of loading, not one squib round, not a single "faulty primer", 1000s of rounds per year. I've shot a fair bit of lead over the years including .40S&W with an AA#5/LSWC combo. I have no reason to lie to the OP. What's your contention? No Glock has ever kaboomed? All KBs were the fault of overcharged reloads? AA#5 will KB any pistol, even a Glock? Elevated lead levels in the body are worth the savings? Glock's owner's manual is intentionally misleading to protect them from lawsuits? Where's your proof of that, or are you the author?

If I'm to believe everything positive I've heard about Glocks they are:

The best fighting pistol ever.
The most accurate pistol ever.
Indestructible.
Unstoppable.
Always go bang.
Need not be cleaned.
Need no lubrication.
Will be fixed for free forever, though no one has ever needed service.
 
greenlion said:
Plated bullets from makers like Berry's or Ranier are almost as cheap in bulk. They won't leave lead in your barrels, and you have the added benefit of not having to handle the raw lead bullets.
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I use plated bullets too. At low charge, they are pretty accurate and clean shooting. You get big discounts for buying them in bulk, so save up. Like he said above, not as much lead exposure risk handling them, shooting them, loading and cleaning.
 
Skylerbone I think the OP was just trying to say it comes down to common sense. Whats the difference in a lead bullet and a plated one if the lead bullet shoots cleanly without leading. I figured with your superior reloading skills you are talking about you could understand what he is talking about.
 
"If I'm to believe everything positive I've heard about Glocks they are:

The best fighting pistol ever.
The most accurate pistol ever.
Indestructible.
Unstoppable.
Always go bang.
Need not be cleaned.
Need no lubrication.
Will be fixed for free forever, though no one has ever needed service" :what: Ha! Pretty much sums it up! :D
 
I would figure that if you run a slug through the barrel you should be able to tell what size lead bullets to use. I assume that the OP is handloading the ammo that is being shot?
 
Well glockky, if you read his First post he noted leading with the 15 rounds he fired in the leade area of the chamber. What experts, manufacturers AND the Internet tell us about shooting lead in a polygonal barrel is exactly what the OP experienced. Is it my understanding that field stripping and cleaning the pistol every 15 rounds to avoid dangerous levels of buildup is using common sense to its fullest? I can only imagine that gloves would be in order as well to avoid contamination.

I suppose next you'll have him fire a few FMJs between magazines to shoot the lead out. High pressure rounds + thin walled case + tight gas seal against lead bullet = accident waiting to happen. I can tell by your handle you're not just a fanboy but I have people's safety in mind. I've fired enough lead through enough barrels to know which ones I won't use it in.
 
For crying out loud, shoot lead bullets if you must! Just don't hang on to any idea of a warranty or lawsuit if your gun blows up. It's on YOU, baby! Men will make their own decisions, but then they must live with them.
 
That's my thought too sharpdressedman. If anyone reads the last line in my first post, I clearly was asking for personal experiences only, after stating my personal experience.

I have the power of google too, I know what every one claims.
 
The explaination and reasons I included in post #4 came directly from a Glock instructor in a Glock armorers course I recently attended. No internet inflation or fabrication. I'm sure the reload thing is a liability issue with Glock. He told us a person had sent in a pistol for replacement with the barrel blown up and slide blown off the frame. Glock engineers concluded it was a reload with a double charge. The instructor told us the barrels are tested to 130% of SAAMI standards so if you blow one up, it is basically your fault.

If you want to shoot lead bullets, nothing is going to keep you from it and a lot of people do. Just be aware that if they can prove it, your warranty is voided. I think I'll spend a few extra dollars and shoot the plated variety.
 
The explaination and reasons I included in post #4 came directly from a Glock instructor in a Glock armorers course I recently attended. No internet inflation or fabrication.
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And, may I add that I got EXACTLY the same advice directly from Glock, in Smyrna, GA.

If you shoot lead bullets in your Glock--AND you are using the original factory barrel--you WILL deposit lead in your bore with every shot. The reason is because the polygonal rifling is so slick, the bullet actually skids in the first part of the barrel.

Over time, unless you are religious about removing lead from the barrel, it will build up. The final stage is when you shoot a round and it hangs up for a split second right at the point where the build up is.

You pay your money, you take your chances.

But don't take our word for it. Here's a telephone number...

1-770-432-1202.

Call them up, and ask them.
 
It's not "High Road" to shoot lead in your Glock, and then send it to Glock after it blows up and ask them to fix it on their dime. As long as the user pays for the damage, shooting lead should be fine, for as long as it lasts......................
 
I am no expert, but I have shot lead alloy bullets in a stock Glock barrel before. I am still alive and my Glocks still function as designed. YMMV

It can be done, but it does require correct sizing, BHN, and lube. It is not something I recommend people do, especially the noobs. Glock says not to do it because they have to CYA. Same goes for their stance on using reloads in their pistols. Same reason I say not to do it because I am covering my rear.
 
Some how there is always stipulations, the ifs, CYA, weasel words, and etcetera concerning lead bullets with Glock OEM barrels. Ok so it can be done with procedural conditions/restrictions. Why go thru the hassle when an aftermarket barrel with conventional rifling precludes the problem. If one ignores the manufacture’s prohibitions then live with the consequences.:what:
 
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