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Glock didn't start the polymer trend. Might have made it more popular but the VP-70 (for one) was around for years before Gaston got into the gun business.
 
Just What We Need

And not only that one that you can't use with cast bullets and one the has more NDs than any other brand and one that has kB!s too.

I think I'd prefer an old saturday night special.

FWIW

Chuck


MrTuffPaws said:
Just what we need. A poly framed revolver with an awkward grip angle.
 
Reliable Out of the Box

But Smith and Wesson seems to have figured out how to make a 1911 that is reliable out of the box.

FWIW

Chuck

gudel said:
not even Gaston Glock can make 1911 reliable out of the box. :D
 
I'm from a racing background, motorcycle racing. I turned 52 years old not long ago and I'm still racing, mostly small bikes anymore. I know older racers who get stuck in the past. They're old Brit bike guys or they're into old Honda 305s or some such. That's what they wanna ride. They refuse to live in the 21st century. There's an organization full of those guys, American Historic Motorcycle Racing Asso. That's all fine and good, but I've been on the latest GP stuff, owned a couple in the last five years, and modern stuff is LIGHT YEARS ahead of those old POS oil leaking, no turning, wobbling antiques. Been there, done that! I ain't stuck in the past when modern race bikes are so freakin' good!

I sorta have that attitude, but I've noticed the gun world seems mostly made up of the stuffy old ba$***** that don't wanna change. In the 22nd century, they'll be making their own smokeless powder cause 1911s will be totally shoved aside by the gun world in favor of modern phasers that don't need powder. :banghead: I mean, what other hobby/tool is a 1911 design considered up to date? Where else do things change so slowly?

Don't misunderstand, I love shooting black powder, but it has it's place. I don't carry my .31 pocket Remington as a carry gun. I don't own a glock, either, though. There are reasons I don't care for the design too much for carry, but I can't say it's junk just because it's got a polymer frame. :rolleyes: And, people have different ideas on ergos. I happen to think it don't get much better than the DA revolver for ergos. I do not like a 1911's feel at all. I didn't grow up shooting 'em and I don't like 'em. I do like my Ruger P series guns with hogue grips. That's the ergos I'm used to.

It's a diverse world, though, and that's a good thing 'cause I enjoy gun debates...:D
 
newfalguy101 said:
Seeing as revolvers are essentially unchanged for the last 100 years or so,I dont really see plastic as the next "advancement".

Glock took an existing idea and improved on it, err at least the mechanics of it, the ergonomics STILL suck :neener:

And other than just to say they did, WHY would they mess with something unknown when they have their hands full making up new cartridges so that they can make new guns for them?????

And to me, others have done better, with "improving on an idea" and using polymers. Example...FN FiveseveN. :)
 
Dang...my vision must be going...

jerkface11 said:
I would assume a Glock revolver would look like this. http://world.guns.ru/handguns/hg49-e.htm Too bad the russians never imported these. I would have bought one.

...'Cause that actually looks pretty dang cool. If I understand correctly, only the lower frame is polymer. As long as they have some metal reinforcing the lockup point at the top, I don't see why it should fail.

"I have one word for you, Son..."

"PLASTICS!!"

As long as they're strong enough, I can't rationally hold out against them. Of course, once the subject of personal tastes comes to the table, I retreat back to the safety of my all-steel guns!! :neener:
 
Kalindras said:
...'Cause that actually looks pretty dang cool. If I understand correctly, only the lower frame is polymer. As long as they have some metal reinforcing the lockup point at the top, I don't see why it should fail.

"I have one word for you, Son..."

"PLASTICS!!"

As long as they're strong enough, I can't rationally hold out against them. Of course, once the subject of personal tastes comes to the table, I retreat back to the safety of my all-steel guns!! :neener:

I've got plastic guns, but I ain't gonna buy no magnum revolver TOP BREAK with a plastic anything. :barf: The top break won't handle the pressures even if it's solid steel.

Now, then, has anyone tried carbon fiber? It's used to make wheels and even disc brake rotors on racing motorcycles. Ultra light, ultra strong. I'm not too sure about shear strength and other stresses that would involve a firearm, though. I'd have to let the engineers figure that one out. But, it'd have to be some kinda strong to build a magnum top break revolver out of it that would hold up.

A top break is a cool idea, they're just inherently a weak design.
 
MCgunner said:
I've got plastic guns, but I ain't gonna buy no magnum revolver TOP BREAK with a plastic anything. :barf: The top break won't handle the pressures even if it's solid steel.

Now, then, has anyone tried carbon fiber? It's used to make wheels and even disc brake rotors on racing motorcycles. Ultra light, ultra strong. I'm not too sure about shear strength and other stresses that would involve a firearm, though. I'd have to let the engineers figure that one out. But, it'd have to be some kinda strong to build a magnum top break revolver out of it that would hold up.

A top break is a cool idea, they're just inherently a weak design.

The only problem I'd see with carbon fiber is that when it's finally overstressed and decides to fail, it can do so all at once, catastrophically...It's called "delamination". And when it's a gun in your hand, I would think catastrophic failure of high-speed carbonfiber fragments in all directions...well...

For a good example, look for the film of the F-117 that came apart over an airshow.
 
magnumcarry said:
Dognose82, what have you been smokin? you need to put your hands on a Glock and shot one, then tell us what you think, you WILL come over to the dark side then. you most likly carry a "j" frame .38 and have no idea what a Glock really is. GET REAL MAN !!!!!!!

good guess on my carry piece. though, i have beem known to pack a model 66 evey once in a while.:)
 
Black Majik said:
Glock needs to make a 1911 first before getting into the Revolver market. :rolleyes:
Now ya know, I'd really like to see a polymer 1911-style gun. Something lightweight, with a good SA trigger, a properly designed thumb saftey, and a doublestack magazine.

The USP comes close, but that safety/decocker lever chews up my hand. There have been a number of attempts at polymer framed 1911s, but none of them seem to "do it" quite right.

A Glock with a good SA trigger, an ergonomic thumb safety and comfy grip would be darn spiffy. But then, it wouldn't be a Glock anymore...
 
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Darkside852003 said:

Polymer can be done with style. If these images show up...

Glock. Block.

glock_22.jpg


Beretta. The thing has STYLE, see, it CAN be done. :D

beretta_px4.jpg
 
It wouldn't be complete without the little dingus on the trigger. What would be the purpose of the dingus on a revolver, though?

Edit: It just dawned on me. The dingus could switch on a laser that projected the word "Perfection" on the target. :p

2nd Edit: Glock could provide a second tip for the laser that would project the word "KaBoom" on the target. :neener:
 
Headless Thompson Gunner, they make them. I have one on my hip right now. An old model Kimber/Bul 14+1 1911. Also Wilson makes the KZ, which is a 10 shot, poly framed 1911. But the best is the STI/SVI guns. The 2011 type double stack guns are amazing. And their quality is superb.
 
Manedwolf said:
Polymer can be done with style.

I have a G22 but am indifferent to how it looks,it's like a Toyota Camry or something that only generally needs to look like it does to function.However,I happen to think the SIG Pro is a good looking pistol and bought a 9000S entirely on looks alone.Guess there's a reason everybody tells me I'd be a good canidate for Queer Eye for the Straight Guy:confused:

Fully underlugged revolvers are awesome looking to me.Huge fan of stainless S&W's of any type but the first handgun I ever fired was my Dad's ancient top-break .22 with a beer mug grip and I never thought that thing looked anything close to cool.
 
It's a gun fight we're talkin' here. You think the BG is going to stop and admire your pistol before shooting you????
No we aren't talking about a gun fight. Not everyone buys a gun with the intention of shooting a BG.
 
It would never work. As has been demonstrated in another thread concerning Glocks and SHTF scenarios, guns with any kind of plastic inherant to the design are worthless due to their inability to withstand temperature extremes. If the temp falls much below 70 degrees, they become brittle and may break if fallen upon by a 300 lb relative. If left in a car in AZ for more than an hour (in July), they become a sloppy, misshapen worthless mess.

This is a problem. It means my Glocks won't work in Hell, either before or after it freezes over.:evil:
 
This is a problem. It means my Glocks won't work in Hell, either before or after it freezes over
Don't worry about it. If it doesn't work, you could always sue. They'll be plenty of lawyers around looking for business.
 
Yeah the High temp / Low temp thing is pretty lame given that people don't work in those scenarios either! I'm not the least concerned that some things work on gravity, I don't leave the planet frequently! As for the Glockenvolver, I think a polymer framed revo could be exceptionally cool. One point to consider is that the VAST majority of revo owners are looking for either a highly concealable hi powered firearm (.357 mag snubbie) or they are looking for a high pressure cartridge. I personally don't see a significant reason why engineers couldn't put together some composites that would handle both requirements. However I don't necessarily see much in the way of a profitable scenario for them. The unobtainium frames of S&W have reduced weight on existing revos to the extent that I'd think twice about touching off a max power round in one.
 
In seriousness, how about taking the "glock revolver", making it a top break, but only for light rounds. I think a polymer framed .22, .22Mag or .32H&R would be kinda neat. OK, so it doesn't have to be top break (I still like the design - within its limitations), but it would be a fun woods / plinking piece.

May not be good against mutant zombies, but would be he** on tin cans.
 
Biker said:
It would never work. As has been demonstrated in another thread concerning Glocks and SHTF scenarios, guns with any kind of plastic inherant to the design are worthless due to their inability to withstand temperature extremes. If the temp falls much below 70 degrees, they become brittle and may break if fallen upon by a 300 lb relative. If left in a car in AZ for more than an hour (in July), they become a sloppy, misshapen worthless mess.:evil:
Biker

Surly you jest my good fellow

I am quite positive the Glock barrel is much warmer following a mag dump than it is likely to get during the hottest summer in Arizona, and its well below 70 in winter like uh NOW in Nebraska and I have yet to hear of a Glock failing due to weather, and State cops have been carrying Glocks for several years.
 
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