50 Beowulf SBR upper or 12" slug gun?

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I am about to move out of Washington and get to the free state of Montana, and this frees up the option of SBS which aren't legal in Washington. The debate i keep having with myself is weather or not to just build a 12" rifled slug gun, or a 50 Beowulf 12" upper for the sbr lower... Both would do the same job close in (bear defense and home protection), but would the Beowulf actually be any better at longer ranges than the slugs in a rifled barrel. Cost is roughly the same, the Beo is one less tax stamp... Decisions, decisions...
 
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Do the Beowulf since you can have several different uppers/calibers for the same SBR lower, and then pick up one of these tax stamp free..
 

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Magazine capacity for 50 beo is what, 10?

12" pump will be 3+1...

Much easier to build a silencer for rifles too...
 
I don't know if they make rifled barrels but the KSG is a pretty nice compact pump gun too.
 
Yes, one of each is the right answer! But which one first... I do think the ar upper will come first since I can use it now, but once i get moved I'll probably want the slug gun too. I may try out a Mossberg shockwave to see if the short barreled style works for me, and if so i may sbr that, who knows...
 
I got my .450 BM barrel back today. I had it cut down from 20" to 12" and threaded 5/8"-24. I'll post a photo once I have the upper put back together. Next up is subsonic load development with 300gr bullets, probably Hornady XTPs with Trailboss.

I'm going to run at least one 9-round mag on full-auto just to see how well it works. It should be fine with subsonic ammunition, kind of like a Thompson.
 
I got my .450 BM barrel back today. I had it cut down from 20" to 12" and threaded 5/8"-24. I'll post a photo once I have the upper put back together. Next up is subsonic load development with 300gr bullets, probably Hornady XTPs with Trailboss.

I'm going to run at least one 9-round mag on full-auto just to see how well it works. It should be fine with subsonic ammunition, kind of like a Thompson.
Let us know all the details on the full auto run, sounds like a blast!
 
Will do. Too bad that a 9-round magazine is the highest capacity available. :D
 
Hmmm... maybe a .450 BM follower in one of those mags would be worth a try, and if it works it would be a lot of fun. A friend is building a .50 Beowulf upper to run on a machine gun lower.
 
Never mind, I thought we were still talking about the op.


I use regular AR mags with both my .458 upper and my .50 beo. Never had an issue. Steel mags, pro-mags, and mostly magpul pmags. The magpul 40 round mags hold 13 rounds. I get 10 .50 beo in a 30rd mag but I'm not sure that applies to the .458
 
The logic and economics of this approach make a lot of sense to me.

I'm thrifty so I can buy more guns :)

Adcoch1 - some friends have settled on the .450 bushmaster setup since they can use .45 bullets to reload and not have to buy special ones. Don't know if you reload or will in the future but food for thought.
 
I have decided on 458 SOCOM when I finally get around to buying a big bore upper for my SBR AR. My reason is that I have an approved Form 1 for a 45 caliber silencer, and the SOCOM is better suited to the heavyweight bullets for subsonic loads. I have an ancient 500 grain round nose mold that would make a real thumper of a subsonic hunting round.
 
You do realize that these guns really kick hard,,, right? I have fired a full sized AR rifle in 50 Beo,,, once!

Lighter weight is not going to be your friend on this one.

just a thought.

Randy
 
I do reload, but not currently for anything in 45. Have the stuff but not the gun at the moment. I like the bushmaster idea, but really good heavy bullets arent as plentiful as the .458 offerings, and if I want to headspace off the case mouth I might as well go 50 Beowulf. I am probably gonna go with an sbr upper and a sbs eventually, but the upper doesn't require another tax stamp... And I'm not afraid of recoil at all, if I need a gun for a specific job and it requires a heavy recoil cartridge I just make sure the stock fits me well...
 
There are plenty of heavyweight .45 bullets available. You just need to get away from the idea that you might need a 500gr bullet. I wouldn't even go that heavy for Cape buffalo.
 
There are plenty of heavyweight .45 bullets available. You just need to get away from the idea that you might need a 500gr bullet. I wouldn't even go that heavy for Cape buffalo.
I know you're correct here CraigC, but I would like to try it once or twice to see if the performance subsonic would be acceptable. I didn't want to muddy the waters of the question between the SBR and shotgun with a lot of suppressor questions and opinions, maybe I'll start another thread about that. Realistically, i will probably build two loads that work for a big bore upper and be done with it, a 350grn bullet is plenty big enough. The versatility is more what the shotgun would be about anyway, but ALL of the discussion in this thread has been helpful to me.
 
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