Dibbs said:
Now, where can you get a 9mmX19mm with the features(specifically, hammer, SA/DA trigger, quality name brand) and size of the CZ70? I have been looking, maybe I missed something.
I don't know why the CZ-50/70 set of features must be the criteria. If so, I'd certainly want to change that list to add the ability to carry
cocked & locked. That first shot is critical, and pulling a CZ-70 out of a carry pocket or holster to crank off a first DA shot will be a challenge.
Saying that a Communist Bloc police/military surplus gun is a "quality name brand" gun is stretching it a bit: The CZ-50 and CZ-70 design was based loosely on the Walther PP/PPK series guns. The CZ-50 and CZ-70 are bigger than they have to be, heavier than they have to be, and while they can have a good SA trigger, the DA trigger can be a pain (hence the need for cocked and locked.) Finding parts will be (if it is not already ) a problem, and magazines seem to be made of "unobtainium." I think Wolff does make springs for the mags, now, though.
Eugen cited one example and I like the CZ P-01 even better. Same overall length, basically the same weight, and it can use a 10 or 14 round
9mm magazine. And like the RAMI, it is certainly DA/SA. (The "safety-equipped" RAMI can be carried cocked and locked; the decocker model doesn't have a safety -- but that's arguably not needed.) The CZ 75 Compact is about the same size as the P-01, but because it's steel rather than alloy; The 75 Compact can also be carried cocked and locked, which isn't really possible with the CZ-50/70. The P-01 has a smoother, easier DA trigger pull than the CZ-50/70.
S&W makes the Guardian, which is striker fired, but can carry 7-8 rounds; to my thinking, for what is a smaller gun, 9mm trumps 8 rounds of .32 most days. The Guardian weighs less than the CZ 50/70, and handles the 9mm round quite well. And then there's the S&W Bodyguard (.380) which is hammer-fired and weighs only 12 ozs.. It's also smaller, and the prices have been very reasonable (in the $250-$300 range last I looked.)
Kahr makes a number of 9mm guns that are smaller and lighter than the CZ-50/70s, and even the larger P9, which holds 7 or 8 rounds (depending on the magazines used), weighs 12.7 ozs. and is a half-inch shorter. (I had one several years ago and it was a pleasant-shooting 9mm. I should have kept it, but saw something I thought I might like better, and traded it away.) The slightly smaller CW9 has a 7-round capacity, weighs less than the CZ-50/70, and is shorter, too.There are all sorts of .380s out there that are impressive little guns.
Even the Kel-Tec PF9 or the SCCY CPX3 -- both hammer fired -- can hold from 7-10 rounds of 9mm (depending on the magazines used) are pretty good designs -- and in the same price range. (Even less costly if you buy used -- which is what you're doing with a cz-50 OR cz-70!) And parts, if you need them are available. Bought new, you get a warranty.
