Doublehelix
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Took my new P365 MS out for its first test run, and thought I would present my first impressions.
I know there are a lot of these threads out there already, and I apologize if I am being redundant, but I did not want to pollute someone else's thread.
Background: I am a pretty big SIG guy, and have been shooting them for many years (I currently have 5 SIGs). For the last 4+ years, I have been carrying a SIG P938, and I love it. It has been my trusted companion daily for a long time.
The higher capacity of the P365 attracted me, but since I am so used to having a manual safety on my carry gun, I was waiting for the release of the version with the manual safety before diving in.
I went to an indoor range today, and although I prefer outdoor ranges, this one was close, and when I went in, I was the only shooter.
I brought a few different types of ammo with me to test:
-Fiocchi 115gr RN (I haven't shot factory ammo in years other than my SD ammo!)
-Federal HST 147 +P (SD ammo)
-Handloads - RMR 147 gr FP over Sport pistol (PF = ~132)
-Handloads - RMR 124 gr JHP over Sport pistol (PF = ~132)
-Handloads - Berry's 100 gr (.380) over HP-38 (mouse fart loads)
At this point, I only have the 2 standard 10 round mags, one with the pinkie extension.
I put about 200 rounds downrange through the P365 without a single hiccup. It ate the HST +P rounds just as easily as the 100 gr mouse fart loads. Zero issues, smooth cycling, consistent patterns between all of the loads.
I was focussing on SD, so I put the target at 21 feet (7 yards). I wasn't really after any type of accuracy tests as such, but was more interested in functioning.
BUT...
Even though I was getting pretty tight groups for a sub-compact pistol (4" groups with an occasional flyer), all of my groups were about 5" low at 7 yards. UGH.
Now before anyone comments, yes, I understand that SIG uses a combat sight picture. Yes, I centered the dot over the bullseye.
This low shooting was consistent across all ammo types. Decent groups, but all low.
I also brought my P938 to compare, and of course I got great groups that were centered on bullseye. I understand that I am comfortable with the P938, and that it has a lot more rounds down the pipe, but the difference was stark.
Both guns were comfortable to shoot, and even without the 12-round extended mag (ordered, waiting on delivery), I was able to get a great, comfortable grip, and the P365 was a joy to shoot.
I rapid-fired a couple of mags, and everything functioned perfectly.
All-in-all, the P365 was a complete success in its debut, other than the low groups. I need to look into a different front (or rear) sight to see if I can bring the groups up a few inches.
Anyone else see this (other than those that don't understand the SIG sight picture)?
I know there are a lot of these threads out there already, and I apologize if I am being redundant, but I did not want to pollute someone else's thread.
Background: I am a pretty big SIG guy, and have been shooting them for many years (I currently have 5 SIGs). For the last 4+ years, I have been carrying a SIG P938, and I love it. It has been my trusted companion daily for a long time.
The higher capacity of the P365 attracted me, but since I am so used to having a manual safety on my carry gun, I was waiting for the release of the version with the manual safety before diving in.
I went to an indoor range today, and although I prefer outdoor ranges, this one was close, and when I went in, I was the only shooter.
I brought a few different types of ammo with me to test:
-Fiocchi 115gr RN (I haven't shot factory ammo in years other than my SD ammo!)
-Federal HST 147 +P (SD ammo)
-Handloads - RMR 147 gr FP over Sport pistol (PF = ~132)
-Handloads - RMR 124 gr JHP over Sport pistol (PF = ~132)
-Handloads - Berry's 100 gr (.380) over HP-38 (mouse fart loads)
At this point, I only have the 2 standard 10 round mags, one with the pinkie extension.
I put about 200 rounds downrange through the P365 without a single hiccup. It ate the HST +P rounds just as easily as the 100 gr mouse fart loads. Zero issues, smooth cycling, consistent patterns between all of the loads.
I was focussing on SD, so I put the target at 21 feet (7 yards). I wasn't really after any type of accuracy tests as such, but was more interested in functioning.
BUT...
Even though I was getting pretty tight groups for a sub-compact pistol (4" groups with an occasional flyer), all of my groups were about 5" low at 7 yards. UGH.
Now before anyone comments, yes, I understand that SIG uses a combat sight picture. Yes, I centered the dot over the bullseye.
This low shooting was consistent across all ammo types. Decent groups, but all low.
I also brought my P938 to compare, and of course I got great groups that were centered on bullseye. I understand that I am comfortable with the P938, and that it has a lot more rounds down the pipe, but the difference was stark.
Both guns were comfortable to shoot, and even without the 12-round extended mag (ordered, waiting on delivery), I was able to get a great, comfortable grip, and the P365 was a joy to shoot.
I rapid-fired a couple of mags, and everything functioned perfectly.
All-in-all, the P365 was a complete success in its debut, other than the low groups. I need to look into a different front (or rear) sight to see if I can bring the groups up a few inches.
Anyone else see this (other than those that don't understand the SIG sight picture)?