I'm a magnet for bad quality control

I can't afford to be that unlucky.

JERRY said:

I can't afford to be that unlucky.

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LOL! That is a witty response.

Umm...……….. OP, that really sucks. Sorry for your troubles.

Is a single ten cylinder SUPPOSED to cycle with the loading gate open?

Fine Figure of a Man said:

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Redneck Mario's?

Wow! I’ve had to ship backs few Ruger and Smith “new to me” guns for various reasons, but never a batch of newbies like yours.

Hopefully your next five new guns won’t be needing a return trip home to work right

Stay safe.

laylow said:

By cycle, I meant spin. Should've been more clear.

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Ah, then yeah. Definite problem. Seems you’ve had a bad run of luck with Ruger in particular. I’m sure they took care of you but still...

What does this say about the gun industry in general?

laylow said:

They did. Each one was fixed for free and turned around in about a week.

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Well you’re really kind of lucky eh? That’s not a desirable issue, but a good outcome.

Elmer Keith once wrote in an 80's era G&A column that if a gun maker produces one bad gun out of a thousand, it's going to be the one he ends up buying. He was referring to problems with one of his brand new S&W model 29's.

I've had to send two S&W's back that had problems brand new in the box and more than a few of the Ruger's I've bought in the past couple of years have had some annoyance that needed to be tweaked or modified to get right.

laylow said:

Heritage Rough Rider: broken hand spring after a few hundred rounds

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With the Rugers, it is about quality control and inspection IMHO. I too have experienced more than a few minor issues with several new guns.

With the Heritage Rough Rider, I think that the spring issue is all about heat treating. Flat springs are farmed out to outside heat treating firms and are heat treated in large batches.
So, if one spring in the batch is too hard, and will break, then they all are too hard and will break.
That means that a whole bunch of revolvers may (or may not) go out with hand and trigger/bolt springs that are just waiting to break. It also means that when you get a free replacement spring, it may also break because its from the same batch. Until those springs are used up, anyway.
That's why in the past some people have experienced spring breakage while others never have.

Piettas have also had complaints in the past about this with their BP revolvers. The two Piettas that I own seem to be just fine though.

Sucks for you, but increases the odds of the rest of us getting good ones. It's a tough job but someone has to weed out the lemons

Wow!

I have more Rugers than any other make. So far pretty lucky.

Koroner said:

I have more Rugers than any other make. So far pretty lucky.

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Of all of the Rugers that I owned from 1972 to 2000, there was never a single problem. A standard auto pistol, a Super Blackhawk, a couple of blued Blackhawks, a #3 carbine, a Mini-14, and a couple of 10-22s. No problems at all.
But, at some point after 2005, I think, little problems started to creep in.

There's a silver lining to that dark cloud. You had the sense to buy new, instead of getting somebody else's un-warranteed problems.
That 20 to 50$ you MIGHT save, on a used gun, just isn't worth it, as you have found out in spades, this year. Maybe if the odds start to even out, you won't have any more defects for the next 50 years, or so.

Ive broke lots of guns (or bought them broke), but only ever sent one back- a Ruger P94. They replaced the whole slide, free.

All the rest I managed to fix myself, but then Im a fairly competent trained wrench monkey. I like the challenge.

Im tryin to talk my buddy out of a basket case Luger assembled from three parts guns to see if I can make it run......

I have never had a new Ruger with defects. They all have to go to the gunsmith for tuning, but they all have worked out-of-the-box. So thank you, laylow, for weeding out the bad ones.

The last time I bought a new Smith & Wesson that wasn't defective, though, was a Model 41, around 1990. All the rest have had to go back to the factory, sometimes multiple times.

Between the two of us, I'm mildly surprised that anyone else gets any lemons at all.

laylow said:

Ruger LCP: constant FTE and stove pipe, replaced extractor

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I know 2 people who are having stove piping problems with their LCP. Is replacing the extractor a fix?

However, reading the comments here:
https://shopruger.com/LCP-Extractor/productinfo/61505/
I'm not too sure it is a long term fix¿¿¿

I say that you should play the lottery until the new year.
This year has proven that you are defying the odds a lot.
Seriously, what are the odds for you to get all of those new guns with issues?

Sounds like me. Worse. Luck. Ever.