Heritage arms RR problems

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I have a heritage rough Rider .22LR Single action revolver a very common inexpensive revolver. Now the probems , this single action has ran maybe 300-400 rounds of standard velocity ammo and has been thoroughly cleaned once and 'field cleaned" after every session. The cylinder stop is out of time and misses the approach by I estimate 2/8 of an inch maybe a little more also on the back of the receiver the cylinder hand notches (unsure if thats the terminology) have bore a very deep groove into the frame, now they say there is four "notches" when working the hammer it basically goes #1 colt safety , ok pretty normal. #2 loading notch, ok, works almost perfectly except the cylinder doesn't center the loading chamber directly, whatever that's doable . . #3 "this is of no consequence to the shooter" is what they write, here's the problem the hammer will lock as if all is fine but the cylinder doesn't lock up, the stop has (like stated before) come up early and ready for the approach but if you lower the hammer manually to see what would happen if you fired this way accidentally the hand will rotate it back to the previous cylinder which wouldn't happen if fired normally this is just from the deliberate slow lowering and the pressure of the hand not slipping past the cylinder hand notch, but if fired in this position with the hammer falling under normal tension I feel there is a very good possibility of it firing out of battery (not the term I'm sure) with the forcing cone or "out of round" (sounds like the right term please call me out on that" ) #4 firing notch, again the hammer falls back where it laid on #3 (I know it's the same hammer notch so no need to explain that to me) but the hand finishes the cylinder rotation and the lock engages fully and will fire just fine and I bet for quite a decent life span. My problem is it's easy for someone to fire on #3 and possibly harm themselves and this isn't stated in there manual like I wrote "of no consequence to the shooter" and that's all they write! please THR community please enlighten me this is my first SAA , also if you own one and if you don't follow through with the hammer from #2 too #3-#4 and let it back down itll lockup which mechanically I can see why just either repull the hammer back if the cylinder hasn't locked yet and pull the trigger and let the hammer down SAFELY if the cylinder has locked up just open the load gate and pull the pin the cylinder will wiggle out (this isn't uncommon with SAA from what I have read but the later I hear might be due to timing issue due to early lockup)
 
I have been interested in one of these lately just because I have more 22 mag ammo than the revolver might cost and nothing to shoot the ammo with.
Your question is hard to understand. These have safety's to the left of the hammer.
I don't think it will fire from any position if the safety is on would it?
I also think that all single action revolvers are to be fully cocked before lowering to what you call position #1.
Are you saying that your revolver will fire when not fully cocked? At the third click? finger off the trigger?
There's no need to try it, there's no need to stop at the third click.
But I'm pretty sure you do need to go all the way back to your 4th click before resting it at position #1 and closed with the safety on. When the safety is on with these, I do think that there's a gap between the hammer and frame.
 
#2 loading notch, ok, works almost perfectly except the cylinder doesn't center the loading chamber directly, whatever that's doable .

I think this is normal, my 1873 clones do not line up either. That's just how they are. You have to line the cylinder holes up to insert each cartridge. Maybe it's like that so they don't fall out if the latch opens up. The frame keeps them in place.
 
I have two of these guns. If I'm reading your question the same way SigSmoker is in post 3, what he has responded with is accurate. The only point he and I are still unclear on is if your gun will fire (drop the hammer) from the third click rearward, with or without pulling the trigger. I'm not at home right now, so I cannot try it yet. If you try it, make sure to do so with the manual safety on to protect the pin and chamber edge from impact.
 
Thanks for the responses guys,
To heck with that safety I carry hammer down on a spent shell, the hammer will not fall without the trigger being pulled but if it is fired in the third notch which is the same literal hammer notch as #4 minus the hand actually completing the lockup it can possibly fire out without it being fully locked up.
 
FYI, Academy is running their yearly Black Friday special on those again this year, $99.

Wow .. I can't pass that up. Thanks

LATE EDIT: Just looked and found. Looks to be the 22 LR only far as I can tell. I need a magnum.

Here's the advert for Black Friday: https://www.theblackfriday.com/academy-sports-black-friday-ad.shtml?page=4

Here's the page on Acadamy for the rimfire revolvers they have.
http://www.academy.com/shop/browse/shooting/firearms/revolvers/rimfire-revolvers
 
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If you do decide you want one, get there early. Those are usually some of the first things to go. Each store only has a limited number, my store tells me they have less than a dozen set aside.

You can buy the .22 mag cylinders on line if you want to later.
 
Sounds to me like its time for it to be returned to the manufacturer for repair. Heritage has a decent reputation for customer service. Or, if it was me, I would probably just try to find one on sale and buy another one.
 
SigSmoker, keep an eye on Bud's and others for "Taurus Blem" deals. That's how I got my second, a 3.5-inch birdheads model, for $149. It has both cylinders, and I have to really look for the "blems."
 
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Thanks whomever moved the the forum to revolvers im still learning. I was gifted this gun. Academy did a holiday thing where it came free with another pistol, but back on my topic I know it's out of time from it throwing the lock before the approach but is the 3rd knotch sounding right to you guys ?I'm learning about single actions and revolvers in general I've spent all my time on semi's and refinishes I figured I need to start somewhere.
 
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