So once a felon is released from prison you believe s/he should be allowed to own guns?if an adult person cannot be trusted to own firearms, they should not be living unfettered in society either.
Like the First Amendment? The SPLC thinks so, too.Right, and as such, the implied Nazi affiliation should have NO bearing on the decision, the reporting nor the final outcome.
Jack-wagon laws putting people like me in the position of defending odious stands like Nazism really tweak me.
Todd.
I like that idea.I think they should have to charge and convict you with some sort of criminal threatening/harassment or terrorizing
Yes.So once a felon is released from prison you believe s/he should be allowed to own guns?
Yes.
When I read "no due process", I know I'm reading something written by someone who doesn't know what due process is.
Most felons who are released from prison should be still be in prison. While we are talking about "should be" and what I THINK, I also think they should all be hot bunking like our service men in many military situations and they should be breaking rocks and building MORE prisons when it is not their turn in the rack they share with 2 other low life convicted criminals.So once a felon is released from prison you believe s/he should be allowed to own guns?
Show me he made a specific threat, and I'm all for taking his guns. The following is a quote from the New York Times article. Law enforcement can't point to that, which is concerining for me. As I mentioned in the last thread regarding this, my parents came here immediately after WW2, during which they endured unimaginable horrors. I lost quite a few family members to Nazis, including my grandfather who was taken away in the middle of the night, put in a camp and killed there because he was hiding a Jewish friend and refused to tell the Nazis where he was. IMO the Nazis and their supporters are among the most repugnant people who have lived. That being said, you have the right to be repugnant as long as you're not a threat to anyone. For those who are in favor of taking his guns, can you list the specific threat he made? I'm not saying he didn't make one, only that I don't see it and acording to the NYT article law enforcement didn't either.
Some other food for thought. The San Francisco city counsel has labeled the NRA a terrorist organization, and the far left agrees with them. Is that enough to confiscate guns from NRA members? I'd tread carefully when tossing Constitutional rights out the window.
"Ms. Wyatt said law enforcement officials have continued discussing what criminal laws might apply to Mr. Cole’s case. She said criminal statutes focus on threats made to an intended victim.
“What do you do when there’s a general threat versus one specific individual?” Ms. Wyatt said. She said officials were discussing their options under state law.
Federal investigators have also faced this issue as they struggle to balance First Amendment protections that allow hate speech and actions that could be an indicator of future violence. In some cases, the F.B.I. has turned to local prosecutors to handle the cases."
Most felons who are released from prison should be still be in prison. While we are talking about "should be" and what I THINK, I also think they should all be hot bunking like our service men in many military situations and they should be breaking rocks and building MORE prisons when it is not their turn in the rack they share with 2 other low life convicted criminals.
Can you not find the words to make your case? I'm not reading all that and then guess what your point might be and state it for you.
No one has been charged with a crime when they kick down their door at three in the morning with a perfectly valid warrant."He has not been charged with a crime."
But his property has been seized by the government under physical threat. His rights have been trampled and HE IS THE THREAT?
"He has not been charged with a crime."
Why?I think they should have to charge and convict you with some sort of criminal threatening/harassment or terrorizing … not that familiar with how they approach this or all the scenarios, but - really it seem to me as I'm learning about this - that if you qualify for some sort of red flag, it should be qualified with some sort of crime that can be attributed to it. For mental illness, maybe you get attributed some outpatient status for mental health care - after being determined to be a threat to yourself or others due to mental instability. If they can go after you just because you have ideas and can speak, possibly those ideas are a parody, or a joke, or you're just a wise hytss who like to be a contrarian … if there is no crime, or proof that you are a threat to yourself or others, well - that seems to open a Pandora's box of confiscation due to not liking someone - for whatever reason, different ideas than you - and well, to be honest - we all watch the news and see how tolerant some groups are of ideas that are different in any way than their ideas.
Yes, I do.So once a felon is released from prison you believe s/he should be allowed to own guns?
You certainly can, under any number of statutes, in all states and especially in federal court.You can't jail people for making threats.
Yes.So once a felon is released from prison you believe s/he should be allowed to own guns?