S&W 27-2 Blued. How are the 27s?

The M27 is the numbered version of the Registered Magnum. Many consider it the pinnacle of S&W revolvers.

There is no comparison between the M19 which is a K frame and the M27 which is a N frame. The N frame handles .44 Magnum ammo, .357 Magnum ammo won't harm it in the least.

Model 27 , nothing wrong with the original.
Haven't heard much problems about them, only problem you have is that you don't have one yet.
Yes the pinnacle of S&W, and a elegant weapon for a more civilized age.

For many years the model 27 was the " Flagship " of S&W revolver design. It's an N frame, and in fact it's the same frame used for their model 29, 44 Magnum.
From what I have seen, you are very much getting the better of this deal

The 27 was the absolute pinnacle of S&W manufacturing. Some say it even eclipsed the Colt Python in quality and shootability.

Huntolive said:

So sounds like you guys are saying the trade would be a good one to make?

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No, we're telling you that you need to do it now.


Yes those older Smith & Wessons are definitely collectors items. Would be a huge investment in all honesty. And three other Dan Wessons? Then you're pretty much covered.

The dash 2 variant was made from 1961 until 1982. The barrel is pinned in place. You can see the end of the pin where the barrel screws through the frame by top of barrel. Recessed refers to the cylinders being cut so the case head is recessed into the cylinder. These features were deleted on the 27-3

The pin is considered desireable because it more positively locks the barrel in place and prevents the front sight from canting.

The recessed cylinder was designed to better shield the shooters hand in the unlikely event of a case rupture.

As nice as the DWs are, the 27 is a step up. I woulddnt hesitate to make the trade.

Huntolive said:

And what does it mean "pinned and recessed"?
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"Pinned" referred to the barrel has been screwed into position and then a pin is installed to keep it from un-screwing. The pin can be seen from the side of the frame where the barrel attaches to the frame. It is a feature that insures the barrel will not "un-screw" from the frame.

"Recessed" refers to the cylinder has been cut so that the rim on the case is recessed into the cylinder. Recessing the cylinder is a nice feature that cost more money to machine into the cylinder. Many, if not all, current manufacture guns are not recessed.

The N-frame Model 27 revolvers are kind of the top of the line of 357 Magnum S&W revolvers. The Model 28 revolvers are on the same frame but the finish is not as exquisite as the Model 27's. The Model 28 is the patrolman's version.

Model 27 and Model 28 S&W revolvers will handle a steady diet of any "in spec" 357 Magnum load.

The dash number indicates the engineering revision of the S&W model. The Model 27-2 were produced for a long time without any major revision

.I have a 6" barreled Model 27-2 that was made in the early 1970's and an 8-3/8" version made in the late 1970's. Apparently, the production run of Model 27-2 revolvers was more than twice as long as the space between manufacturing dates of the guns that I have.

If both are equal condition I would have already jumped on that trade.

No significant issues. Get it!

I wouldn't make a habit of rapid DA shooting or fast-cocking the gun, which, given the mass of the N-frame cylinder in .357 Mag., will eventually peen the bolt and the bolt notches on the cylinder, but that's about all there would be to worry about. As with any other .357 Mag. revolver, you'd be well advised to shoot rounds with lighter bullets (e.g., 125 grains) sparingly so as to avoid excessive forcing cone and top strap erosion / flame-cutting. I'd avoid 110-grain rounds altogether.

earlthegoat2 said:

The 27 was the absolute pinnacle of S&W manufacturing. Some say it even eclipsed the Colt Python in quality and shootability.

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I can certainly agree with overall shootability. I've always preferred the S&W's DA trigger characteristics to the stacking Colt V-spring action, and an N-frame just sits far more naturally in my hand than a Python. But as to quality, no postwar S&W that I've ever encountered is at -- or even all that close to -- the level of fit and finish that my 1957, 1959, and 1961 Pythons have. The later Pythons weren't much to write home about in that department, though, so I suppose the statement holds true for some period(s) of time in Python production.

A Model 27 was the Cadillac/Mercedes of the smith line. It had all the little things done. Checked top strap for less glare, rear grip frame half checkered for grip, deluxe grips, recessed cylinder, well polished blue finish. All steps up from their workhorse 28, same gun but sand blasted and no extras.

The 27 & 28 were identical guns differing only in fit and finish.

No issues to be concerned about.

Really nice guns and easy to shoot but its way too big to be useful for my purposes. If you want a 357 smith for the range or collecting its about as good as it gets.

I have owned mine for 35 to 40 years or there about. I will say I’ve loaded and shot many thousands of rounds of 38Special thru, and only a few hundred 357 Mags. It’s big it’s heavy and it hangs on the target like a champ. Mine has a target trigger and hammer.
The - numbers represent changes to the design. For instance mine has a pinned barrel. Later models didn’t.

Huntolive said:

Thanks
I hope the trade works out.
This guy is starting to get really picky...

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He probably realized the S&W is worth at least 33% more than a equal condition 715... The new Dan Wesson's cost a pretty penny, but the older ones still sell in the $500 range.

Howdy

As has been stated, the Model 27 was one of the flagship Smith and Wesson revolvers. It started out as The 357 Magnum in 1935, developed in conjunction with the 357 Magnum cartridge. Built on the large 'N' frame it was felt necessary to use the large frame and cylinder to contain the pressures developed by the new cartridge with the steel alloys available at the time. In 1957 when S&W changed over to a model number system of naming their revolvers, The 357 Magnum became the Model 27.

This is a Smith and Wesson Model 27. This one happens to be a no dash, just a straight Model 27. It left the factory in 1959. This is the box that came with it. You can see the pin that pins the barrel in place and prevents it from rotating at the junction of the top strap and the swell in the frame for the barrel.






Sorry that this photo is a little bit out of focus, but it shows the rear of the cylinders of a Model 19 on the left and a Model 27 on the right. Both have recessed cylinders. The recess completely encloses the rim of the cartridge. This was a standard feature on many S&W Magnum revolvers, to prevent injury if the case head ruptured. The countersink that contained the rim would prevent broken pieces of brass from exiting the cylinder. I don't know of any instances where a case head actually failed, but that was the idea.






This is a view of the top of the Model 27 at the bottom of the photo and a Model 19 at the top. This is a good view of the checkering that was applied to the top strap, top of the frame, and top of the barrel rib. This feature was exclusive to The 357 Magnum and the Model 27. No other S&W revolver had checkering on the top. The idea was to reduce glare.






This particular Model 27 is what is called a four screw revolver. There are three screws that hold down the side plate. On is hidden under the grip. There is one more screw in front of the trigger guard that allows access to the bolt spring and plunger. This screw was done away with when the Model 27-2 was introduced in 1961.






The only issue with the Model 27 is it is a big, heavy gun. That is why the K frame 357 Combat Magnum was developed in 1955. By that time S&W felt that advances had been made in steel alloy technology to allow the 357 Magnum cartridge to be safely fired in a lighter K frame revolver with a smaller cylinder and less metal between chambers. You can see how much more metal there is between chambers of the Model 27 in the photo of the two cylinders. In 1957 the 357 Combat Magnum became the Model 19. This is the model that sometimes had issues with the forcing cone spitting because of the thinner cross section at the bottom of the forcing cone.

reddog81 said:

He probably realized the S&W is worth at least 33% more than a equal condition 715... The new Dan Wesson's cost a pretty penny, but the older ones still sell in the $500 range.

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I like my DW 15-2 but I'd trade it for a Model 27 in a New York minute!

Offer him some extra ammo, or grips , in the deal.