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Aka: why Loon Wulf is a very bad person :p

So, last week I had the opportunity to purchase a NIB Mossberg Patriot chambered in .375 Ruger. The rifle is 22” barrel, with a Cerakote silver that Mossberg calls Marinkote, or something similar. It has a large soft recoil pad and “synthetic” stock. At $300 it was extremely tempting despite numerous bad judgement lights going off.

In my hour of need, I reached out to brother Loon Wulf who has a .375 Ruger chambered rifle, seeking his advice and counsel, expecting him to talk me off the ledge. Instead, he was nothing but an enabler! :D Thanks very much LW!

So there are lots of Patriot reviews out there, most of which seem to fall in the fair to fawning range. There aren’t so many reviews of the .375 Ruger version, an interesting foray into dangerous game rifle territory for a budget bolt action.

First, the worst: the stock. I take it Mossberg got a deal from Mattel on contract manufacturing their “synthetic” stocks. Despite a fairly classic straight comb design, it is nothing but not so fantastic plastic. Maybe it’s recycled, so environmentally conscious ? All the quality feel of a low end air rifle. Integral plastic trigger guard. Some effort at stippling at wrist and forend grip areas. Basically cheap and cheesy.

Second worst, same as the first: Mattel rejected magazine. Very cheap, extremely brittle feeling plastic magazine. I can’t get to “polymer”. It has toy/airsoft feel to it. Magwell and guide? Cheesy plastic. Having said that, the single stack 3 capacity magazine pops in and out of the rifle easily and snaps in securely. The lever release is easy to access and operate. Would be fine with gloves on.

Stock must weigh nothing because on my not very sensitive bathroom scale, I get a rifle total weight of 6.2 lbs. Quite disturbing given what it is chambered in!

Cerakoting is well done in a matte silver-grey. Williams sights, adjustable for windage and elevation look good and functional. Sighting is easy and straight-forward. Recessed crown is a nice touch.

Spiral bolt seems an odd touch in a budget rifle but aesthetically pleasing and smooth. Pinned floating bolt head is to allegedly ensure tight alignment on lock-up, but may also allow slightly sloppier manufacturing tolerances ? Two lug bolt is a little disconcerting but lock up is totally solid - no rattle or play. Bolt knob is large, knurled, easy to manipulate.

Bolt release is a tab on the left side - easy, functional, classic. Two position safety allows unloading while on. Safety is a little gritty and noisy. Trigger is excellent, at least in dry fire. I don’t have a gage. I’m guessing 3 lbs or less, very clean. Very surprising.

Rifle handles very well. As noted above, it’s disturbingly light. The 22” barrel feels right and the pivot point is right on the Mag release. Moves well.

So, first impressions are extremely positive with the exception of the stock, which is appalling. If I like it enough, I will probably have to re-stock it, which makes the $300 cost of entry less of a steal.

I have dies on the way; Hornady brass, 270 grs Hornady Interlock to hand, and will order some Lyman 375499 270 grs bullets for cast loads at @1800 FPS. Should be good for hogs. And with jacketed bullets a great elk rifle. There is talk of a trip to Namibia next year with friends from SA who live here in CO, so, who knows...

Will have more when it warms up enough to shoot it.
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If I had a need for a 375 I think I'd go the 375 Ruger route over the traditional 375 H&H version. But I have no desire to shoot one out of a 6 lb rifle. I normally like a lighter stock, but this seems like too much of a good thing. Other than that everything looks good.
 
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270s at 2600 were exceedingly comfortable in my Abolt. Up around 2850 and there's a noticeable jump in recoil, but it's still a push.

The stocks really my only complaint about the Patriots I've handled, and it's better than many of the budget rifles lol....
Might wanna go with a boyds laminate to add weight, and have a packy or kickeez fitted to it at the same time.
 
Can't you get it in wood, but think blued only and can't remember if it be sights.

Mossberg offer a good looking walnut stock with reinforcement cross bolt and a grey-green laminate stock. Not sure the walnut would look as good with the Marinkote. Plus, it sort of defeats the purpose of the weather resistant coating.
 
I have a Brown Precision .375 H&H (now Weatherby .375) that weighs just over 6 pounds un scoped. I (hint hint) Put a VX3 1.5-6x Leupold on it 10 years ago in Gamereaper sight/mounts and it went to Africa twice and Alaska once and all over the Pacific Northwest not losing zero or any problem . It cost about $3000 ready to go. I think I'd just as soon have half a dozen of yours with the same scope mount/ scope and not stress over the thing, leave as guide tips ect. :) Ill bet in 6 of them you would have at least a couple that their 5R rifling would make astounding groups. Seriously your new rifle would meet all my need IF it has no defects. I bought a Compass recently for $250 and it is astounding ! Ive heard those Mossbergs work pretty good ! See what we get bringing back jobs to the USA :)
 
Aka: why Loon Wulf is a very bad person :p

So, last week I had the opportunity to purchase a NIB Mossberg Patriot chambered in .375 Ruger. The rifle is 22” barrel, with a Cerakote silver that Mossberg calls Marinkote, or something similar. It has a large soft recoil pad and “synthetic” stock. At $300 it was extremely tempting despite numerous bad judgement lights going off.

In my hour of need, I reached out to brother Loon Wulf who has a .375 Ruger chambered rifle, seeking his advice and counsel, expecting him to talk me off the ledge. Instead, he was nothing but an enabler! :D Thanks very much LW!

So there are lots of Patriot reviews out there, most of which seem to fall in the fair to fawning range. There aren’t so many reviews of the .375 Ruger version, an interesting foray into dangerous game rifle territory for a budget bolt action.

First, the worst: the stock. I take it Mossberg got a deal from Mattel on contract manufacturing their “synthetic” stocks. Despite a fairly classic straight comb design, it is nothing but not so fantastic plastic. Maybe it’s recycled, so environmentally conscious ? All the quality feel of a low end air rifle. Integral plastic trigger guard. Some effort at stippling at wrist and forend grip areas. Basically cheap and cheesy.

Second worst, same as the first: Mattel rejected magazine. Very cheap, extremely brittle feeling plastic magazine. I can’t get to “polymer”. It has toy/airsoft feel to it. Magwell and guide? Cheesy plastic. Having said that, the single stack 3 capacity magazine pops in and out of the rifle easily and snaps in securely. The lever release is easy to access and operate. Would be fine with gloves on.

Stock must weigh nothing because on my not very sensitive bathroom scale, I get a rifle total weight of 6.2 lbs. Quite disturbing given what it is chambered in!

Cerakoting is well done in a matte silver-grey. Williams sights, adjustable for windage and elevation look good and functional. Sighting is easy and straight-forward. Recessed crown is a nice touch.

Spiral bolt seems an odd touch in a budget rifle but aesthetically pleasing and smooth. Pinned floating bolt head is to allegedly ensure tight alignment on lock-up, but may also allow slightly sloppier manufacturing tolerances ? Two lug bolt is a little disconcerting but lock up is totally solid - no rattle or play. Bolt knob is large, knurled, easy to manipulate.

Bolt release is a tab on the left side - easy, functional, classic. Two position safety allows unloading while on. Safety is a little gritty and noisy. Trigger is excellent, at least in dry fire. I don’t have a gage. I’m guessing 3 lbs or less, very clean. Very surprising.

Rifle handles very well. As noted above, it’s disturbingly light. The 22” barrel feels right and the pivot point is right on the Mag release. Moves well.

So, first impressions are extremely positive with the exception of the stock, which is appalling. If I like it enough, I will probably have to re-stock it, which makes the $300 cost of entry less of a steal.

I have dies on the way; Hornady brass, 270 grs Hornady Interlock to hand, and will order some Lyman 375499 270 grs bullets for cast loads at @1800 FPS. Should be good for hogs. And with jacketed bullets a great elk rifle. There is talk of a trip to Namibia next year with friends from SA who live here in CO, so, who knows...

Will have more when it warms up enough to shoot it.
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Great deal on the rifle enjoy it!!!
 
But I have no desire to shoot one out of a 6 lb rifle.

Yeah, that's crazy. I have to say I think the H&H makes more sense than the Ruger, but I'm less dogmatic about it than I used to be. Still, the high taper and shallow shoulder for feed and belt for headspacing, while antithetical to both accuracy and efficiency, make a lot of sense in a safari cartridge. The extra weight of the magnum action isn't THAT big a deal IMO - in that kind of gun you want some weight.

I'll defend non-belted magnums for all non-dangerous game applications. But for the dangerous stuff it seems like H&H had a good design.
 
I’m impressed with my Ruger M77 Hawkeye African .375Ruger every time I shoot it. It truly is “one rifle for the world”.
I bought it used. According to gun shop talk, local MD took it to Africa and took an assortment of plains game to include a Cape buffalo.

My favorite load is a thrill to shoot. VERY accurate, and not bad recoiling. It’s the recently re-introduced Hornady 225gr PtdSpt over 77.0gr of Reloader15. Hornady cases, Federal 215 primers. Runs about 2,800fps.

When I got the rifle, I made the rounds of the LGS, and found an astonishing assortment of bullets for pennies on the dollar. I now have essentially a lifetime supply of bullets.

Recoil isn’t as bad as my .300RUM. I shortened the stock and added a Pachmayer Old English brown Decellerator pad. It looks like it “grew” there. Recoil is about like a 12ga shotgun with duck loads.

For a rural Alaskan resident, the Mossberg sounds like a great choice.
 
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If I was shopping for a .375, I would probably end up with a .375Ruger. Contrary to others, I want a lighter .375. Problem with most .375H&H's is that they are the same barrel contour as the same maker's .416's and .458's and that is just way too heavy for a .375. I handled one of the new Rigby's and it was the same way, probably 10lbs. The .375Ruger is a standard length cartridge and thus, the guns weigh and balance like they should. I picked up one of the Ruger Hawkeye African models and it balanced like the custom shop Model 70's I looked at years ago. I want a magnum action to be a .416 or bigger, not a .375.

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Heh..
hehehehe.....
Hahahahahhahah.......:evil:



270s at 2600 were exceedingly comfortable in my Abolt. Up around 2850 and there's a noticeable jump in recoil, but it's still a push.

The stocks really my only complaint about the Patriots I've handled, and it's better than many of the budget rifles lol....
Might wanna go with a boyds laminate to add weight, and have a packy or kickeez fitted to it at the same time.

270's at 2400, out of my Ruger African 9.3x62, are tolerable.




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Weighing in to defend Loon Wulf. He is definitely an enabler, but not a "bad person" (I know you are kidding). But to the contrary, he sent me some 260 grain AccuBonds to try in my .375 Ruger. Haven't had time to load and shoot them yet, but I appreciate the gesture!

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interesting, I didn't see the stocks for sale last I looked. for that price I'd probably go with the boyds, just cause you'll have to fit a recoil pad on the factory stock.
Weighing in to defend Loon Wulf. He is definitely an enabler, but not a "bad person" (I know you are kidding). But to the contrary, he sent me some 260 grain AccuBonds to try in my .375 Ruger. Haven't had time to load and shoot them yet, but I appreciate the gesture!

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Oh! If temp stability isn't a huge issue, try 81-83gr of rl-17. I'm sitting on 83, with head room, but my coal is 3.5 some odd
 
No RL-17 in the stash, but I do have RL-16. QL suggests 74 grains should push the 260s around 2,666. Looks like 80 grains of H414 should get close to 2,800.

Sorry, OP; didn't mean to turn this into a reloading discussion.
 
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It took the "lightweight" variant of a Boyd's stock to make my wife's/son's Ruger American Compact Rifle into a reliable 1MOA shooter. Before, it would sling flyers. Stock was like a limp noodle. I bedded the stock and it is a solid bit of kit, now.

I own a larger/heavier CZ550 AmSaf in .375H&H. Great gun, great cartridge. Great hog medicine. Put a RNSP or some other soft into a hogs boiler room and it has been a no-track deal for me, every time. Same thing for white tail. Sure, "too much" gun, but I like the "no track" deal from a thoracic cavity shot. Last hunt, mine was DRT, while the other fellow with the .220 Swift or .22-250 got to pay for a deer that they could not track down.
 
Well I’ve been down and out with Double Corona Virus, or the Non-Bubonic Plague, or Triple Pneumonia (aka, Mancold), for about 10 days but finally got onto getting some weight in the stock. Full length bedded the forend to recoil lug with Accriglass embedded with #9 shot and now I’ve got another half pound or so gardening in the butt stock. Can always add more there.
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In the mean time, I’m struggling to find good steel bases. Ordered a set of Warne two piece from Midway clearly marked “Mossberg Patriot” and they don’t work - screw spacing is wrong and both have concave bases but the rifle needs a concave front base and a flat rear base. My Google-fu is failing me - can find good solid steel base. Even the Customer Service Rep at Midway came up empty.

Advice on bases, preferably steel, appreciated.
 
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