Building a Lee Enfield No 4 Mk1 Scout Rifle
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Without a scope maybe a rifle isn't allowed to be a Scout.
But my pair of Enfield #5 "Jungle Carbines" possibly would have qualified as such.
And some dead Malaysian Marxist murderers might have said so when British or Aussies 'zapped' them with #5s in the 1956 Malaysian Insurgency, along with some Imperial Rising Sun troops in Burma, '44 or '45.
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Space Ghost: Your rifle looks really cool.
But my pair of Enfield #5 "Jungle Carbines" possibly would have qualified as such.
And some dead Malaysian Marxist murderers might have said so when British or Aussies 'zapped' them with #5s in the 1956 Malaysian Insurgency, along with some Imperial Rising Sun troops in Burma, '44 or '45.
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Space Ghost: Your rifle looks really cool.
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mokin
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Nice rifle Spaceghost.
I had no idea Lee Enfield scouts were so popular.
Here's an image of my No. 1. Lots of fun.
I had no idea Lee Enfield scouts were so popular.
Here's an image of my No. 1. Lots of fun.
Dave DeLaurant
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I just found some snapshots of a No.4 project gun that an eFriend sent me over 20 years ago. I'm out of touch with him today, but at the time we corresponded mostly about the Cooper Scout Rifle concept.
What I can say about this specific rifle was that his job involved flying into the wilds of northern Canada by helicopter, and his goal was to provide a compact survival/bear arm, should he become stranded in the middle of nowhere. Can't tell you what components he used for the folding buttstock.
What I can say about this specific rifle was that his job involved flying into the wilds of northern Canada by helicopter, and his goal was to provide a compact survival/bear arm, should he become stranded in the middle of nowhere. Can't tell you what components he used for the folding buttstock.
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Space Ghost
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Cool idea, and he probably had need of it since it would store real handy in a plane like that.
Dave DeLaurant
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Here's another variation on the short short LE No.4, from Anvil Gunsmithing:
This cool 'tanker' ended up broadly resembling the prototype .303 Ishapore No.6 Jungle Carbine discussed on Forgotten Weapons (not to be confused with commercially-produced .308 Ishy carbines):
This cool 'tanker' ended up broadly resembling the prototype .303 Ishapore No.6 Jungle Carbine discussed on Forgotten Weapons (not to be confused with commercially-produced .308 Ishy carbines):
That rifle would be carried much and fired rarely in my case.
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Space Ghost
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Finished at last. I couldn't get the different woods to match, however. Ended up taking the pieces to a local lady who does staining, and antique restorations. It was worth it. The end result is a Longbranch No4 Mk 1 Scout Rifle. 18" barrel with the fore wood I shortened, and reshaped. The Leupold FX II 2.5x28 Scout Scope sits on a custom mount made by my gunsmith. It has quick release rings. It sits low enough that the peep sight is in the way. Me not being able to see far without magnification anyhow... I removed the 600 yds part. Now I can use the scope without obstruction. Should I need to remove it and use the 300 yd peep as back up, I can just flip it up, and I'm in business. The buttstock is a Boyd's because I wanted the turn down "pistil grip" style as it's much easier on my wrist. I did have to trim the brass butt plate as the Boyd's stock is a bit thinner. I found a WWII dated sling online. Couldn't get very good photos outside. The sun was so bright on the snow, it was playing hell with my phone.
Dave DeLaurant
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Your photos came out pretty clear, especially for a phone camera.
FWIW, my substitute for a light box is to photograph firearms on a slightly overcast morning against a relatively light background (wood or cement slab), in the shadow between two white buildings -- plenty of reflected, non-directional light that avoids both deep shadows and shiny reflections.
mokin
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Looks good Spaceghost. Have fun with it.
I had a sling like the ones pictured above on my No. 1 until I put the scope on it. Once I did that, I had to go with a Ching sling.
I had a sling like the ones pictured above on my No. 1 until I put the scope on it. Once I did that, I had to go with a Ching sling.
chicharrones
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Looks great, SG! 
Now for the shooting!
Now for the shooting!
tlynch
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Looks good!
Very nice job on the wood.
Very nice job on the wood.
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Space Ghost
Love your No.4 Mk.1 Scout Rifle! Really like how it's configured and the wood furniture turned out great!
Love your No.4 Mk.1 Scout Rifle! Really like how it's configured and the wood furniture turned out great!
1KPerDay
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Very cool. I really have a soft spot for shortened/"tanker" type military rifles for some reason, and the Enfield is among the coolest.
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Space Ghost
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The "tanker Garands" is what gave me the idea to do one on the Lee Enfield. I sold my Lee Enfleid like 17 years ago, and have been wanting one since.
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Range day. Only had one brand of ammo to test, PPU 180 gr SPBT. I used some old M16 25 m zero targets. Not a stellar performance, but not too bad. Kinda unsure if I should tinker with the fit of the stock as it hits the barrel. I wasn't shooting very well today. Somehow,I managed to get the same size groups at 50 yds, and at 100... Just under 3".
351 WINCHESTER
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Try reloading. PPU brass is top notch. Get some IMR 4064 & some quality bullets.
chicharrones
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Pretty dang good shootin' considering you're not using a proper British target.
That is actually about what an old military rifle that has not been accurized is capable of. It is not a MOA type rifle nor action. You might be about to get it down to about 1.5-2 MOA at best. They have been accurized for shooting competitions by military teams and in England/Australia/New Zealand/Canada for shooting competitions. Roger Wadham's book which appears out of print but has a Kindle book, https://www.amazon.com/Lee-Enfield-...1?keywords=roger+wadham&qid=1583444151&sr=8-1 is a pretty good primer on accurization.
Continentals? Germans? French?Pretty dang good shootin' considering you're not using a proper British target.
mustanger98
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I've heard plenty of times that 2-groove barrels run cast lead bullets real well.
chicharrones
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1KPerDay
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I want this frickin rifle so much. LOL
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