rskent
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I understand that there are Glock haters just like there are haters of other guns as well. But to compare them to Democrats is a low blow. I mean really low.
Seems like a fair comparison to me.
I understand that there are Glock haters just like there are haters of other guns as well. But to compare them to Democrats is a low blow. I mean really low.
Not liking or hating a particular gun or platform makes someone a Democrat? Many Glock guys hate or are equally if not more highly critical of everything that's not Glock, so what's that make them?Seems like a fair comparison to me.
They’re not good. The problem isn’t the night sight part, the tritium vials are fine. The problem is the daytime part: they’re three white dot sights. That’s not a good daytime sight picture. What you want is a much brighter front sight that draws your eye quickly; fluorescent orange or green works well. Then you want a flat black rear sight that doesn’t draw your eye but helps you line up the front sight quickly: I like a U-notch rear sight.
Seems like a fair comparison to me.
Yes. And they don't hold up well to use in kydex holsters either, at least for those who have to train regularly with lots of drawing and physical activity. I don't have an issue with the sight picture (it's as good as any) as far as stock plastic Glock sights, it's the cheapness and durability. There's a reason that most agencies and especially tactical teams that use Glocks have aftermarket sights put on 'em.
"Why the hate?" It's not hate. Some folks employ firearms as hard-use tools. Those parts are … garbage.
Does the Gen 5 fit better in your hand? I have no experience with them..My thoughts exactly. I just bought a G19 MOS. Immediately changed them for some Tijicon night sights. As i will likely be using it as a “tool,” i.e. HD/SD firearm, I would like it to operate at any hour of the day...or night.
They work perfectly fine for day time shooting, light use. No hate, there’s just better products out there.
Honestly, what kept me from a Glock for so long was how they fit in my hand. I like the Gen 5 though.
Does the Gen 5 fit better in your hand? I have no experience with them..
Good to know. I'll have to look at one then next time I'm at my LGS.Affirmative.
No doubt, and if you ever go downrange at an indoor range, you will find bullet holes/marks in places that challenge your grasp of Newtonian physics.
How does that happen? Surely people aren't aiming at the ceiling.You don't have to go downrange. Most places, just look up at the ceiling.
I tried counting the holes in the ceiling at a local range that was less than a year old. Only 5 lanes, video, plus mandatory training course (free, and actually not bad) the first time you shoot there. Nice place, mostly middle-aged shooters, lots of couples, no gangbangers or chairforce rangers.
I guesstimated five holes per square foot, remarkably evenly distributed - I would have figured they'd be in visible lines following the lanes, with higher density about mid-range, but they weren't that way at all.
Somewhere around 12,000 holes.
And I've seen *much* worse on the ceilings of other indoor ranges.
They werent, the gun was.How does that happen? Surely people aren't aiming at the ceiling.
That can't be... Several members in the thread swear that the plastic Glock sights never break... Even Taurus is shipping their new G3s with steel Glock pattern sites, and are moving away from plastic... For the money Glock charges, IMHO they should ship with their steel sights. That's one of the major complaints against Glock, so you'd think they'd change that by now.Over time the rear sight will will often get soft and/or worn and will slip off the dovetail. I've had this happen with a Glock mod 20.
Just back up and look at post #136. I posted a pic of a broken Glock rear sight .That can't be... Several members in the thread swear that the plastic Glock sights never break... Even Taurus is shipping their new G3s with steel Glock pattern sites, and are moving away from plastic... For the money Glock charges, IMHO they should ship with their steel sights. That's one of the major complaints against Glock, so you'd think they'd change that by now.
And if you look throughout the thread, you'll see other members whom I was referring to said that they'll hold up just fine. They should ship standard from the factory with steel sites for the price they charge. No one should have to pay even more to buy the non standard less commonly found version with steel sites. At being one of the most expensive polymer handguns on the market, with the competition and even budget priced guns being able to have steel sights as a standard, and with Glock being able to sell thousands of Blue Label pistols each year for much less than civilian prices, it's clear that they aren't exactly passing cost savings to civilian. That's just my opinion YMMV.Just back up and look at post #136. I posted a pic of a broken Glock rear sight .
And if you go to post #16 on page one, you will see pics of metal Glock sights.
If you want metal sights on you next Glock, have your dealer order one with metal night sights for you.
This. I said it way earlier in this thread, but it bears repeating: The vast majority of factory handgun sights — even metal ones with tritium vials — have a poor sight picture and should be replaced. When I buy a Glock I know I didn’t pay extra for sights I’m going to throw away anyway.I don't want to pay more for steel night sights that suck
Have you looked at the price of polymer frame guns lately? The Sig M18 And M17 are selling for over $600, when Glocks are under $600. I just looked at a brand new Glock 43X today. It was priced $479.99. Sig P365s are running from $580 to $670.And if you look throughout the thread, you'll see other members whom I was referring to said that they'll hold up just fine. They should ship standard from the factory with steel sites for the price they charge. No one should have to pay even more to buy the non standard less commonly found version with steel sites. At being one of the most expensive polymer handguns on the market, with the competition and even budget priced guns being able to have steel sights as a standard, and with Glock being able to sell thousands of Blue Label pistols each year for much less than civilian prices, it's clear that they aren't exactly passing cost savings to civilian. That's just my opinion YMMV.
The grip angle and the sights are both the major complaints people have hence the origin of this thread. I hear that the grip on the Gen 5 are better, but I haven't had a chance to try one out yet. If that's true, that leaves one major gripe...