For those who like 7mms

PapaG · May 2, 2020

When I was fifteen I bought a 7X57 Remington Rollng Block rifle complete with bayonet for 14 dollars from Hunter's Lodge in Alexandria, VA. Pulled about fifty bullets from some military ammo, loaded them back up with data from my Lyman manual, on the very low side, and shot it. I went on to purchase one of something every week from them and when I went to college I had about fifty nice old military rifles and carbines. Sold them one or two at a time for tuition money, sometimes making 1000%. Today, I hate to think what those things would bring, especially the 1911s, Smith Hand Ejectors, 1903A1, and a few others. I guess the education was worth it. I'm retired, no debt, have my own until land and enough guns I have trouble deciding what to carry.
That 7 was my first "big" centerfire rifle after my hornet I loaded for. I'd shoot it still if I had it. Still have the dies.

WisBorn · May 2, 2020

I haven't seen any one mention Roy's 7mm Weatherby Mag (unless I missed it) ?

Anybody have any love or hate for it?
Never shot one. Just wondering what you guys thought of it. I know that there is a lot of love out there for his 257 mag.

troy fairweather · May 2, 2020

WisBorn said:
I haven't seen any one mention Roy's 7mm Weatherby Mag (unless I missed it) ?

Anybody have any love or hate for it?
Never shot one. Just wondering what you guys thought of it. I know that there is a lot of love out there for his 257 mag.

the 7mm is really the only wby round I like, the 240 is nice to.

.308 Norma · May 2, 2020

WisBorn said:
I haven't seen any one mention Roy's 7mm Weatherby Mag (unless I missed it) ?

Anybody have any love or hate for it?
Never shot one. Just wondering what you guys thought of it. I know that there is a lot of love out there for his 257 mag.

I had a hunting buddy that used a 7mm Weatherby Mag for pronghorns, mule deer and elk. He did alright with it, but as a non-handloader, he paid through the nose for ammo when and if he could find it around these parts. I used to give him a pretty hard time about that. But the truth is, I like the 7mm Weatherby Mag. Then again, I'm a handloader.

GunnyUSMC · May 2, 2020

Over the years of collecting surplus guns, I never looked for rifles in 7mm Mauser. Then one day a made a trade for some stock work and ended up with a VZ24 barreled action and a Brazilian 1908 that was missing some parts.
Here’s the VZ24. I got a stock and the rest of the parts, except some of the bolt parts.

Here’s the 1908. It still need a bolt and floorplate, and a good cleaning.

WisBorn · May 5, 2020

For those that like the 7mm rem mag I thought you may enjoy Randy's take on it.

Llama Bob · May 5, 2020

The 7mm WSM and .28 Nosler are my favorite 7mms. I've got by far the most use on the 7mm WSM. As far as why, the bullets have high sectional densities and high BCs (unlike the comparatively useless .270). It's suitable for western elk, which is the tag I can easily pull every year. The WSM comes in a lightweight CRF rifle (the short action Kimber 8400) that is suitable for high country carry. The wind drift (which drives max effective range due to unavoidable wind mis-estimation, especially on cross-canyon shots) is exceptionally low. Recoil is negligible. It's hard to imagine a better high country elk rifle.

troy fairweather · May 5, 2020

Llama Bob said:
The 7mm WSM and .28 Nosler are my favorite 7mms. I've got by far the most use on the 7mm WSM. As far as why, the bullets have high sectional densities and high BCs (unlike the comparatively useless .270). It's suitable for western elk, which is the tag I can easily pull every year. The WSM comes in a lightweight CRF rifle (the short action Kimber 8400) that is suitable for high country carry. The wind drift (which drives max effective range due to unavoidable wind mis-estimation, especially on cross-canyon shots) is exceptionally low. Recoil is negligible. It's hard to imagine a better high country elk rifle.

I love the 7wsm, shame it was not popular. Any particular load you prefer.

Llama Bob · May 5, 2020

I think despite not being very popular, either it or a 7mm-300WSM will experience a resurgence over time. I already see the rifles pulling a premium. In that way it's like the 10mm. If the 7mm WSM didn't exist, we'd have to invent it.

Historically I've shot a 175gr Weldcore or 175 A-Frame using Retumbo at about 2950 in a 24". I'm now experimenting with the 155gr Terminal Ascent with Retumbo as well. Max velocity is 3190 but accuracy load is TBD.

troy fairweather · May 5, 2020

Llama Bob said:
I think despite not being very popular, either it or a 7mm-300WSM will experience a resurgence over time. I already see the rifles pulling a premium. In that way it's like the 10mm. If the 7mm WSM didn't exist, we'd have to invent it.

Historically I've shot a 175gr Weldcore or 175 A-Frame using Retumbo at about 2950 in a 24". I'm now experimenting with the 155gr Terminal Ascent with Retumbo as well. Max velocity is 3190 but accuracy load is TBD.

I am tempted to try the 168 nosler ablr but there real deep in the case. I would like to find a 150-160 high bc bullet to try. If I can find a range I can use more often I'd load some hotter rounds, I've been sticking to the middle load data. I need to get some new brass soon, like to compare the wsm with the 6.5 prc I have.

Llama Bob · May 5, 2020

it doesn't really hurt anything to have the tail of the bullet in the case. if it's not, you're not using a long enough bullet

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The 155 Terminal Ascent seems to be decently accurate and the TBBC line as a whole has incredible terminal performance (far better than the ABLR and even the regular AB) although I have yet to shoot an animal with the .284 155gr specifically. It is very long though.

troy fairweather · May 5, 2020

Llama Bob said:
it doesn't really hurt anything to have the tail of the bullet in the case. if it's not, you're not using a long enough bullet .

The 155 Terminal Ascent seems to be decently accurate and the TBBC line as a whole has incredible terminal performance (far better than the ABLR and even the regular AB) although I have yet to shoot an animal with the .284 155gr specifically. It is very long though.

I've shot a few deer with 150gr hornady or Winchester really don't know they were seconds, but shot great. I'd just like a bullet and load to separate the 7wsm from my 7x57 and Ai.

My Browning has shot everything very well, don't know if it will stabilize the 168. Wish I had a Winchester crf in wsm,

98s1lightning · May 5, 2020

I don't have any WSM experience, but I read a lot of the 7mm WSM mag box restricting the COAL to the cartridges full potential with heavies (funny coming from a 284win short action owner!) And I kind of figured if I was going to get a WSM I would go right for the 325, taking advantage of being able to shoot 220's and 250's with the large case capacity. Being they are larger dia at 0.323" I look at it as the least amount of case crowding in the heaviest bullets. (slightly shorter bullets than 30 cal)

I view the 325 as an inside 400yds rifle, not as a "long" range as its little cousins are more suited

But don't get me wrong, I would take a 7wsm for a sweet deal!

troy fairweather · May 5, 2020

98s1lightning said:
I don't have any WSM experience, but I read a lot of the 7mm WSM mag box restricting the COAL to the cartridges full potential with heavies (funny coming from a 284win short action owner!) And I kind of figured if I was going to get a WSM I would go right for the 325, taking advantage of being able to shoot 220's and 250's with the large case capacity. Being they are larger dia at 0.323" I look at it as the least amount of case crowding in the heaviest bullets. (slightly shorter bullets than 30 cal)

I view the 325 as an inside 400yds rifle, not as a "long" range as its little cousins are more suited

But don't get me wrong, I would take a 7wsm for a sweet deal!

Really depends on the bullet. The high bc bullets are much longer then even a spire point of the same weight. I have some 175 round nose I could run long and still fit in the mag. They may explode when they hit a animal tho.

George P · May 5, 2020

troy fairweather said:
the 7mm is really the only wby round I like, the 240 is nice to.

The 257 WM is one great flat shooting round for deer and antelope.

troy fairweather · May 5, 2020

George P said:
The 257 WM is one great flat shooting round for deer and antelope.

I just never cared much for the 25 cals. I'd rather a 6mm for flat shooting or a 7mm for more punch. Nothing wrong with the 25s.

GunnyUSMC · May 5, 2020

Here’s my Mexican Mauser. I would have to say that it’s my favorite 7mm.

LoonWulf · May 5, 2020

WisBorn said:
I haven't seen any one mention Roy's 7mm Weatherby Mag (unless I missed it) ?

Anybody have any love or hate for it?
Never shot one. Just wondering what you guys thought of it. I know that there is a lot of love out there for his 257 mag.

With that ruger american switch barrel im working on i considered a 7mm WBY, and much like the .270WBY, if i drop the .300wm barrel it would be a possible option. Performance is slightly better than the ubiquitous 7rm, but for the most part only real Whebyrs choose it i guess, Ive only ever seen one.

JDeere · Jun 4, 2020

My two favorite Hunting rifles are in 7mm-08 and both shooting 140 Sierra GKs at less than MOA. I can't remember where but someone was talking about availability of ammo. I stopped by Academy the other day and there was not a box of 308 to be had but a good selection of 7-08 was available. Of course I reload so no need to purchase...

Legionnaire · Jun 4, 2020

I have a new-to-me 280 Remington on the way. It's a semi-custom 700. I'm thinking I'll have my smith set the barrel back and re-chamber it in 280 Ackley.

troy fairweather · Jun 4, 2020

Legionnaire said:
I have a new-to-me 280 Remington on the way. It's a semi-custom 700. I'm thinking I'll have my smith set the barrel back and re-chamber it in 280 Ackley.

Nice what's the barrel length, need some pictures

Legionnaire · Jun 4, 2020

Pics when it arrives. 22-inch stainless sporter; was a mountain rifle, dropped in a McMillan Hunter stock.

Charly2020! · Nov 16, 2020

Hi Everyone,

I recently posted the following message about what I believe is a M24. However, I would like so triple check the following: https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...de-for-the-mexican-army.877977/#post-11704357

1. Is this truly a M24 Mauser and not a M30 (although the date under the Mexican Crest says 1924, someone told it may be an M30)
2. Is the caliber of this Mauser 7x57 Masuer? If so,
3. Is it safe to use Partizan's 139gr 7x57 Mauser ammo?

troy fairweather · Nov 16, 2020

It should be 7x57 but check, it's a 98 mauser so it's strong any 7x57 memorial befine. Looks like a normal 24 to me.

Arkansas Paul · Nov 16, 2020

My only experience with a 7mm is in .280 Remington.
I haven't owned one in a while, but plan to get another.
My first 3 deer were with a NEF Handi Rifle in that caliber.

I think I'll either go that route or get a .280 AI eventually. I like having something not many others have.

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