That is very nice, I really gotta handle a Thunderer and see if I like the grip.
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That is very nice, I really gotta handle a Thunderer and see if I like the grip.
I am in fact quite awesome, thanks for noticing
I do agree about the last bit a lot, every situation is different and sone just.....don't see it
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Exactly. I'm in the middle of 100k acres of S. MS pine forest, it doesn't call for a Glock 19- it calls for a S&W Mdl 19, a Mdl 29, or a SAA in .44/.45I am in fact quite awesome, thanks for noticing
I do agree about the last bit a lot, every situation is different and sone just.....don't see it
I'm not exactly fighting wars here though either.
And all the downsides that you are mentioning about the SA apply to a pump action shotgun. You have to cock it after every shot, reloads are slow.....and they have been used a lot over the years. Heck, they even hold about the same rounds
Multiple magazines are only useful in training classes and in competition.
I have to question your fantasies, your knowledge level, and your comprehension of risk management.
Think about it. If you encounter two armed men jumping out of a car to attack you, it won't matter one whit whether you are in LaGrange, II, or outside of Sidon, MS.
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Quite simply... I don't care.
Bluntly I can say the same.
In the woods, you are more worried about animals. Even though some autos are capable against the biggest animal in the woods( God help me but I'm gonna add bear into the mix here) arevolver ismuch more suited in the woods.
I mean......there isn't even roads to drive down so you can jump out of them in a lot of places here
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I'd stay away from both ends of that thing lol
What is the basis for that belief?
I haven't slent time in rural Mississippi for a long time, but if I were venturing into a large pine forest where i would be alone, I would be concerned about running in o folks who were growing something, cooking something, or transferring something to other vehicles.
"De-escalation" would not work. I would be in serious trouble.
The likelihood would be less than remote, but I am sufficiently risk averse to not rely on that.
I don't happen to like Glocks, but I would certainly prefer one over a model 29, and weight would be only one reason.
God knows what the bad guys might be armed with.
Before concealed carry, I had a pretty scary experience while taking pictures in a Cypress swamp on the Natchez Trace.
Bear spray.
I can't even imagine the fireball that comes out of that thing.
I mean....I still want to fire it....once
Do you carry mace and not a gun?
No.
Why not? If you feel spray is more effective than a gun, why do you carry a gun?
I do not carry a handgun for defense against bears, or bear spray for defense against humans.
Il Ling New (an instructor of the single action course at Gunsite) recommends a 12 ga shotgun with slugs for people going into bear country. Their students are forestry and geology folks.
They are taught to carry their guns slung at the ready all the time. I cannot see myself doing that in most wilderness areas.
Il Ling New, whom I hold in very high regard, explains how a revolver cannot be drawn in time for most bear attacks. She demonstrates the bear county version of "avoid, de-escalate, evade, and escape". The gun is the last resort.
I have friends who hike in bear country where one cannot carry a long arm at the ready. The always take bear spray.
Suburbia.
Almost every worrisome encounter I have had with people has occurred in the country.
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The entirety of my life spent here, in these woods majority of the time, until my college years ('14). I know what would be necessary in a handgun.
Really.
I have lived in suburban areas, spent summers in the country, stayed in cabins, camped in parks, hiked in woods, and floated on rivers, and I do not "know what would be necessary in a handgun".
I have availed myself of some good realistic defensive shooting training, and I have chosen carry handguns on the basis of what I have seen, heard, read, learned, and tried.
I hope it works out, if need be.
No guarantees with any situation man, so just roll with what you know and your skills/comfort level can muster. With that, I'll bet near 99% of us will be just fine, or fine enough overall. SA will work for many folks in many situations. All situations of course not, but life is a gamble each and every day in more ways than worrying about what gun to carry to be safe from whatever. Be confident in yourself, build other skill sets (brain and body) besides just shooting and you'd be surprised what you can do with less speed or lower powered options.
Comfort level is a useless commodity. Whether our skill levels are adequate will not be know until the event.
There are ways to test them. Training under the best instructors; trying multiple scenarios in a 3D laser simulation facility; and FoF training, for those who qualify for it, can be very helpful.
Not too many people will do all that. Even for those who do, there are no guaranties.
A 12 gauge loaded with slugs is the best, sure but not exactly handy in a car. Although I do like Shockwaves.
What does New say about bear spray? Personally I don't want to carry something that can be defeated by a light breeze and then incapacitate me. There are few times where you want to be sprayed by pepper spray but I'm pretty sure "while being attacked by a bear" is pretty high on the badness list.
Personally I think it's funny that people won't use spray against people but against something bigger, meaner, and is a expert at fatal unarmed combat.......spray is the best! Kinda weird.
I also highly doubt a long arm is deployed faster than a pistol. Links?
Hardest hitting, yes.
Jack O'Connor recommended them for tigers.
It wasn't mentioned.
There is a lot of stuff on spray in Nonfirearm Weapons. Anatomical differences make spray much more effective on bears than on humans. Remember, they can smell food for up to three miles.
I would rather dissuade a bear than rely upon stopping it.
I carry pepper gel and a pistol--bot not for bears.
One will not walk down the trail with a pistol in hand. it has been years since I saw the video, but as I recall, the shotgun was ready to shoot.
For perspective, an average man can charge at around 5 meters per second. A bear can charge at perhaps 15 or 20 meters per second.
That's right, because that's basically repetitious linear functionality training. That's great if you're the type of person who can benefit from it. I wasn't clear with what I meant by comfort level that you so quickly dismissed, but what I was trying to convey was a comfort level within yourself, with who you are, what you basically believe/know/are confident you can do, and for some of us have personally experienced or lived through. If you are not at that level (or close to it) of knowing (comfortable with) yourself, all of that training you mentioned isn't going to help you much in 'certain scenarios' for sure. Even the best trained can freeze, screw up, etc.. under certain pressures even with the best training.
So, yeah you're very correct at least on your last statement that "even for those who do, there are no guaranties." Yep, all of it an illusion (albeit improved functional skill sets) of grandeur if you don't have the presence of mind, spirit and body, God forbid such an event would we find ourselves in.
And yeah, way deeper than your linear answers to train functionally to gain proficiency, but just saying it takes more than that to help you through said situations, that's all.
Yet still no guarantees, and that at least we both agree on....
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