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According to Wikipedia, the diameter at the widest of the shoulder is .441". Probably a little too narrow to fit in a .44 (actual bullet diameter .429) if you could find anything appropriate.
Otherwise, looks like the closest I can find would be the .400_Whelen
Might actually be able to find dies for that, too.

400 Whelen is really touch and go for headspace. Just not enough shoulder remaining.
 
What is the biggest caliber bullet I can stuff into a 30.06 case? I've been given an old 30.06 Savage. And while the action on this rifle is strong, the barrel is horribly pitted. If I keep the rifle I'll have to rebarrel it, and -since I've never been keen on 30.06- I'm wondering about doing something new, and I'm looking here for some insight.

I'd like to cut a 30.06 case off at the shoulder and essentially make a straight-walled cartridge. What is the largest caliber bullet that would fit into such a case? How would such a cartridge headspace in a chamber? From the mouth of the case, like an pistol cartridge?

Thanks in advance.

I suggest you give up the bigger bore idea completely and go smaller. A 270 Winchester would be real good and would kill anything in the lower 48, shoot flatter, and not kick the stuffing out of you. Definitely want to keep the 30-06 based case so you don't have magazine feeding issues. Trust me, you will shoot something smaller way more than something bigger. If you like varmints, a 25-06 would be the ticket.
 
What is the biggest caliber bullet I can stuff into a 30.06 case? I've been given an old 30.06 Savage. And while the action on this rifle is strong, the barrel is horribly pitted. If I keep the rifle I'll have to rebarrel it, and -since I've never been keen on 30.06- I'm wondering about doing something new, and I'm looking here for some insight.

I'd like to cut a 30.06 case off at the shoulder and essentially make a straight-walled cartridge. What is the largest caliber bullet that would fit into such a case? How would such a cartridge headspace in a chamber? From the mouth of the case, like an pistol cartridge?

Thanks in advance.

On the other hand, go big or go home.View attachment 960116 View attachment 960117
 
Yeah me too!....ya know....savages are pretty adaptable....

Anyway, that artillery trainer is not what I used that 14.5mm cartridge in. The Germans used that device during the war (WWII) and used the same cartridges. In Germany, we had a stubby bolt guns that looked kind of like a benchrest rail gun, but with an adaptor for inside of the breech of the six inch (152mm) gun on an M60A2 tank. These bolt guns were single shot and fired out through the tank's cannon tube. We used them on a subcaliber training range firing at little tanks and such. I considered it pretty much a waste of time. The last time I did that (1978 probably), I ended up with a live round and brought it home.
 
Anyway, that artillery trainer is not what I used that 14.5mm cartridge in. The Germans used that device during the war (WWII) and used the same cartridges. In Germany, we had a stubby bolt guns that looked kind of like a benchrest rail gun, but with an adaptor for inside of the breech of the six inch (152mm) gun on an M60A2 tank. These bolt guns were single shot and fired out through the tank's cannon tube. We used them on a subcaliber training range firing at little tanks and such. I considered it pretty much a waste of time. The last time I did that (1978 probably), I ended up with a live round and brought it home.
so it was like miniature golf for tanks!?
 
Take a look at 375Raptor.
Built for a short action but you’d have unlimited bullet hang-out if you found it necessary.
Ive got a Raptor somewhere on the Mainland right now. I need to look up which shop I sent it to, as I haven't heard anything from them for a while.
I think its a neat round, and im looking forward to playing with it (if i ever get it back), but given access to a long action Id go with a larger cartridge.
 
so it was like miniature golf for tanks?

Yep, except the golf balls flew through the air at a rather slow rate of speed instead of rolling. The idea was to watch that big bullet go out and hit wherever, say low left of the target and then adjust your sights from there to hit the little tank. Something any rifleman with a 22 can do in his sleep. Which is what I usually wanted to do while that training was going on.

Anyway, I don't guess we want to totally hijack this thread to talk about artillery training devices.
 
I've got a non-pitted 30-06 Savage barrel up for grabs if you want to buy ammo for it just about anywhere after this panic is over.

I appreciate that offer and may take you up on it, however I'm beginning to think I may not even be able to get the barrel off of the action. I'll let it soak a little longer in the PB Buster.
 
What is the biggest caliber bullet I can stuff into a 30.06 case? I've been given an old 30.06 Savage. And while the action on this rifle is strong, the barrel is horribly pitted. If I keep the rifle I'll have to rebarrel it, and -since I've never been keen on 30.06- I'm wondering about doing something new, and I'm looking here for some insight.

I'd try shooting it first - you might be surprised. Savage takeoffs are plentiful and cheap if you are good with a standard caliber. Personally I'm another vote for 9.3x62 if you plan to go bigger.
 
Ive got a Raptor somewhere on the Mainland right now. I need to look up which shop I sent it to, as I haven't heard anything from them for a while.
I think its a neat round, and im looking forward to playing with it (if i ever get it back), but given access to a long action Id go with a larger cartridge.

I agree. If you have a long action, take advantage of it.
 
I've seen barrels with chipped lands that were nail drivers. Shoot it first.

I'll try some rounds through it. I cannot see the chamber itself, only the rifling through the muzzle end. The action and the bolt look fine but when I attempt to close the bolt I can feel the lugs on the bolt "grinding" a little bit in their locks (I guess one calls them that) and then I have a hell of a time opening the bolt - I had to use a rubber mallet last time. I'm thinking the chamber might be corroded also, if it is I'd hate to expand a shell in the chamber; I'd never get it out. But dang, that's the fun of tinkering with rifles, isn't it, playing around and seeing what workz and what doesn't?
 
I'll try some rounds through it. I cannot see the chamber itself, only the rifling through the muzzle end. The action and the bolt look fine but when I attempt to close the bolt I can feel the lugs on the bolt "grinding" a little bit in their locks (I guess one calls them that) and then I have a hell of a time opening the bolt - I had to use a rubber mallet last time. I'm thinking the chamber might be corroded also, if it is I'd hate to expand a shell in the chamber; I'd never get it out. But dang, that's the fun of tinkering with rifles, isn't it, playing around and seeing what workz and what doesn't?
its damn near a chronic disorder for some of us.....
 
.45 ACP, since cases for that can be made from .30-06, though a bit of case prep is involved. Yes, it would headspace on the case mouth.

Of course the action would be silly long for the cartridge, and feeding would be poor.......


.45 acp. Hahaha. Good one. I'll dress up i a cape and pith helmet when I use the rifle.
 
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