RockRat64
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I also have seen the video before but never got around to it. Will have to give it a try. It has been frustrating.
Please send me the stupid thing since you no longer need it.
I'm assuming you're referring to the Lee Auto Prime II? I picked one of these up a while back, NOS for $10. I haven't used it yet, but I was impressed by the design basically being a ram prime style with a chute / trough and the positive reviews I found across the internet. Discontinued by Lee in 2011.Priming OFF the press is a PITA. How about that?!
I have the RCBS and the Lee Hand primer. I found no advantage to using those. As for "feel" that is BS as well, the primer is either seated or it isn't.
I have been priming on the press with the round Lee Safety Prime, thousands of rounds in many many calibers, large and small, Never had an issue and do not need to handle that piece of brass several times.
So you prime your way and others will prime how they want.
Heck don't even need a Dillon to do.
FYI, chapter 5 of Lee’s manual is all about priming, primers, and Lee’s priming tools.I'm assuming you're referring to the Lee Auto Prime II? I picked one of these up a while back, NOS for $10. I haven't used it yet, but I was impressed by the design basically being a ram prime style with a chute / trough and the positive reviews I found across the internet. Discontinued by Lee in 2011.
https://leeprecision.com/files/instruct/PP2165.pdf
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Well, personally I like it less so than the updated instructions located at the web link included in my previous post in this thread. It simply restricts Federal primers to only 1 at a time in the tray. The Lee Safety Prime system that's the original focus in this thread segregates the tray & chute / trough from the priming ram requiring a manual physical transfer of each primer across an arc of space from the bottom of the trough / chute to the top of the priming ram, regardless of brand of primer used. In that respect it's very similar to the basic priming system included with my Lee cast iron press, plus a reservoir and chute to eliminating picking up every primer by hand or wit tweezers etc. and then placing each primer in place on top of the actual moving parts that are used to seat each primer.FYI, chapter 5 of Lee’s manual is all about priming, primers, and Lee’s priming tools.
There are explicit restrictions mentioned for their older tools including the Auto-Prime II. To wit:
100-CCI all types okay; wsp; all Remington
20 only-wlp ; wmp; wmr
10 only-wlr
“Do not use Federal primers” it says
No warranty expressed or implied for my above comments—check for yourself.
(How’d you like that “to wit”?)
You specifically asked about "like" at the end of your previous post. I'm just reporting exactly what I think about "like" exactly like you asked. Plus adding material rounding out a more comprehensive picture WRT Federal primers from what Federal prints on their own packages for their reloading component primers as products as the component manufacturer under "Warning" rather than only looking at what any one reloading equipment manufacturer publishes as "Warning".Just reporting the text, not endorsing nor anything else.
No, I specifically and jokingly asked how you liked the use of the term “to wit”.You specifically asked about "like" at the end of your previous post. I'm just reporting exactly what I think about "like" exactly like you asked. Plus adding material rounding out a more comprehensive picture WRT Federal primers from what Federal prints on their own packages for their reloading component primers as products as the component manufacturer under "Warning" rather than only looking at what any one reloading equipment manufacturer publishes as "Warning".
Richard Lee also gave his opinion of all systems that use primer tubes in that Chapter 5. None of this is particularly secret or hidden.
http://marvinstuart.com/firearm/Manuals/Reloading/Reloading Manuals/Modern Reloading 2nd Edition by Richard Lee - ocr.pdf
I suppose I should say I'm not endorsing or condemning any equipment or reloading components either, but that oughta be obvious from my posts' contents.
Well I answered all including "to wit", and no permission required for me to do so.No, I specifically and jokingly asked how you liked the use of the term “to wit”.
To wit only means “as follows” or “like this” and other similar things. In that context, it meant the manual said the following...Well I answered all including "to wit", and no permission required for me to do so.
I and the electrons disagree.To wit only means “as follows” or “like this” and other similar things. In that context, it meant the manual said the following...
I wasn’t asking anything
I place the primers in the priming "arm" the same way you do. I put the primers on a paper towel and gently move it back and forth and they all turn anvil side up. It's fast enough for me after getting the hang of it. Usually I'll prime a batch single stage and then use the turret for the rest of process. I've only been using my classic turret for a few weeks and like it so far. I took the auto primer off the same day I set it up after knocking it off (when empty)accidentally just a few minutes after installing it. I figured it would happen again when full next time so eliminated the potential problem.I gave up on that stupid priming system on LCT after trying it twice. Since that point, I just put the primers in the priming device by hand. I sit them on a piece of card on the bench and pick them up one at a time. Not the fastest way perhaps, but it's consistent.
I put the primers on a paper towel and gently move it back and forth and they all turn anvil side up.
One strange duckI and the electrons disagree.
Do you experience this with both small and large primers? I have never had problems with large but would occasionally have them with small until I learned to be more deliberate (but no tricks were ever necessary).Quite the interesting discussion. I have a Safety Prime on my Auto Breech Lock Pro and was having the normal difficulties with it. Tries some of the trick to no avail. Then one day I was playing with how I operated it. I found that if I placed my index finger under the dispenser and my thumb on the top and pushed down with my thumb it worked almost flawlessly but if I tried with my thumb on one side and the index finger on the other, like pinching them together with the dispenser in-between it hardly ever worked.
Now I also use an old 3 hole turret press with the little T shaped fixture with the large and small cups on it and there is no way to use any of the Safety primes on it. Must manually place them one at a time into the cup. I have found I am nearly as fast this way as I am using the Safety Prime. I do use an old primer flipper tray with this though.
Do you experience this with both small and large primers? I have never had problems with large but would occasionally have them with small .
I place the primers in the priming "arm" the same way you do. I put the primers on a paper towel and gently move it back and forth and they all turn anvil side up. It's fast enough for me after getting the hang of it. Usually I'll prime a batch single stage and then use the turret for the rest of process. I've only been using my classic turret for a few weeks and like it so far. I took the auto primer off the same day I set it up after knocking it off (when empty)accidentally just a few minutes after installing it. I figured it would happen again when full next time so eliminated the potential problem.
Personal attack with a smiley emoticon?One strange duck
Okay I did the boiling water trick to stop primers falling all over the floor. It seems to have worked on dry runs with no case. I did not boil it on the stove, I boiled the water then poured it in a cup. Why didn't Lee do this for me? I'd rather pay more for stuff that works out of the box.
The press seems pretty good, but the accessories are a different grade than RCBS and others.
Next issue, the Auto drum measure.