New Progressive press for the new year?

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Its hard for me to support (or give MY money to) any company who has things made in china.
No stores in my area even carry FA products.
Do they carry RCBS? They've been made in the PRC for a while.

Products like this can be manufactured in the PRC to any level the buyer specify and is willing to pay for
 
If all that was going on one would want it motor driven like the Dillon to get consistent travel and pressure applied.

None of the Dillons come from them automated and complete travel is more important than pressure assuming there isn’t a problem.

It still doesn't solve the need to be out there every 15 minutes to refill with powder.

I casegauge all of my match ammunition so while the machine is loading, I am casegauging, boxing and keeping it full of primers bullets and brass.

I run the presses faster manually that I have my automated ones run.



However, it still takes longer as when I’m finished loading, I have to do the case gauge and boxing.

With this one I can load, casegauge and box 1000 rounds in just under 53 minutes.



If the FA10 works well and is dependable, it will be quite successful at that price point.
 
And that is just when it is set to pump out 1200 rounds an hour.

You can easily turn the speed up to double that...which means you'd be constantly feeding it primers, powder, bullets and cases...but then you'd have 10k rounds loaded in four hours

Going much past 1200 rounds per hour would be a bit problematic on rifle cartridges. There has to be some time for the powder to drop in the case, unless you want powder spilled everywhere. Huge time difference when you're dropping 25+ grains of powder down a .22" diameter hole compared to 5 grains through a .35" diameter hole. With 9mm for example, you're dropping 20% of the powder through a hole that is 50% bigger. Also, if you're doing single pass and start smashing the brass up into the trimmer too quick, the cuts on the mouth start getting a bit rough around the edges. Not to mention even at 1000 or so per hour, the case feeders start having some trouble keeping up(at least the Hornady rebranded one mark 7 sells). Gotta remember, it is a case feeder that spins at about 4rpm, and with the small rifle plate, there are only 6 slots, so you're talking a maximum of 1440 drops per hour, and that is assuming NONE of them are going to skip. When you get into the small pistol ones, you get 30 drops per revolution, so it could theoretically drop up to 7200 per hour.

Either way, going at about 1000/hr gets me all the ammo I need for a month in under 2 hours.
 
1200 rounds an hour would be 20 a minute. That video loading 223 above is closer to 2400/hr as far as rate goes. Manufacturers don’t produce millions of rounds a year waiting 3 seconds for every charge of powder to drop.

Iirc an object in free fall drops at something like 32 feet per second ^2 and a long action case is still in the 3 inch range. Bridging can be problematic with some powders in some calibers though.
 
Do they carry RCBS? They've been made in the PRC for a while.

Products like this can be manufactured in the PRC to any level the buyer specify and is willing to pay for

All i see in my area is Lee, Hornady, Redding. I wish Redding would step up to build a progressive press. Probably not enough cast iron left in the USA to do it though, lol.
We`ve never had or seen any dillon products in our area ever. If there were, i would have bought the dillon. Nobody stocks dillon here. But i wish they did.

I run all Hornady progressive presses because i can go to any store here and get what i need the same day.
If i need any Hornady product that isn`t stocked, i can call Hornady, three days later its in my hands.
I still have the first Hornady progressive press i ever bought (pro-jector), and still use it alot.
I`ve never broken a Hornady press to this day. Pretty good presses, for me anyway.

All my single stage presses are Redding.
With Redding being minutes from me in Cortland NY, i can make a phone call, drive over there, and get what i need. (couple friends work there, its good to have connections)

I`ve been a reloader for 50+yrs. There isnt much i havent seen, and lately, RCBS isnt very high on my list with the type of quality they`ve been putting out as of lately.
In 50+yrs of reloading, i`ve seen alot of companies change. To bad the greed in this country has taken over. When greed takes over, quality suffers.
 
Nobody stocks dillon here.

There isn’t the markup for retailers on their equipment that there is for other brands.

So the incentive is not there for dealers, if they increased the price to make the same amount of money as other brands, people would just buy direct from Dillon.

You can’t just call and order an LNL from Hornady or pro chucker from RCBS.
 
You can’t just call and order an LNL from Hornady or pro chucker from RCBS.
Don't know about Hornady, but the only reason you can't just call and order a Pro Chucker 7 directly from RCBS, is that their Christmas sale skunked them. They are out of stock.....again. A friend of mine got a pretty good deal on his ......came in Last Sunday.....yeah just a little late for Christmas.....but in these times, not bad.;)

https://www.rcbs.com/presses/progressive/pro-chucker-7-progressive-reloading-press/16-88911.html

They've been selling direct for a little more than a year, but not being a green fan not surpised you didn't know. I bought a Uniflow 3 direct last fall when I reviewed it.
 
They've been selling direct for a little more than a year, but not being a green fan not surpised you didn't know.

Oh, you know I’ve got RCBS stuff. I haven’t bought a new press this last year though.

Are their prices to the general public just MSRP?

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They usually ship free, so it's comparable to midway.

The exception is the pricey MatchMaster digital scale/trickler which is $900 at Midway, $910 at RCBS ... shipping is free both places.

The new Rebel press is $260 at RCBS shipping free......Midway $220 + 17.35 shipping economy. so $237.35 tax is another thing....not sure there. But still both is way under list. On the Rebel press, out of stock at Midway, in stock at RCBS. You got me curious so I looked and compared. ;)
 
I ordered a telescope from Optics Planet a few years ago.....that's when I learned the hard way that they don't have anything in stock, nor do they always honor advertised prices. Took me a whole year to get the telescope and it cost me 20 percent more than they advertised. Never again.

If memory serves. ... you told us on this forum a similar experience with Midway USA and you swore off them! ;) I wouldn't bet the bank on those Pro Chucker 7 prices....I got mine on sale a few years ago, for around $750.....and that was buying a P.C. 5 plus the 5 to 7 upgrade kit.....so I could get two powder measures that way. A small one with the 5 and the large one with the Upgrade to 7 kit. Been perfectly happy with it....except that I've made collators for both rifle and bullet feeders....thanks to you bugging me about getting a 3D printer. Thanks, really! Keep the Covid and Biden blues away.;)
 
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Looks like a well thought out machine, might be a great press. Would like to see one in person. Will be interesting to see what market price will end up.
 
Jmorris will you be getting one of these machines when they are available? I would like to see a review by you if you do get one.
 
I have a Dillon 750 set up next to my Hornady LNL AP on my bench. For about the same price, I'd be willing to try out a 10 station progressive.

2 truths come to mind...

>> There is hardly anything in the world that someone cannot make a little worse and sell a little cheaper, and the people who consider price alone are that person's lawful prey. It's unwise to pay too much, but it's worse to pay too little.
- John Ruskin


>> Consider that there is hardly any more material or assembly labor in a basic Chevy than there is in a Cadillac. That means the difference in price comes from the utility presented to the user. IOW a high end press cost more because it offers more usefulness to the owner. If you don't pay much, then you probably won't get much.

Just my 2 cents.
 
I don’t know, I’ve already got more than a half dozen progressives, 3 1050’s and two of those are automated.

If the initial reviews are that they are not a bust...I could never say never. I have owned a number of progressive presses just to see how well they worked and how well I could make them work.
 
I also would like to see how their seating die is seating from being fed from a bullet feeder. I wonder how consistent it could be with OAL and what a pain it is to keep the bullet seater running. I can see debris building up in the die and causing all kinds of problems.
If they truely mastered that and it works well, consistently, then they have really got something there. I hope is does.
We will see when the press comes out for sale. I wonder where it's made?
I hope the bullet seat die works well, but I have my doubts. We will see when the general population gets ahold of it. And I don't mean the people that can't walk and chew gum at the same time, I mean seasoned reloaders that can make progressive presses run with little trouble.
I get really tired of You Tube videos from people that have fixes for stupid little problems that don't exist.
 
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