Reloading Presses, Demand

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Over the past 10-15 years I’ve had the pleasure to bring a few new reloaders into the hobby. Today they have all thanked me several times for helping them to learn to reload. One of them is running short on Primers and I will properly help him out because I can. They are appreciative ! Their investment has gained 3X value.
One the other hand I’m sad that there were many others who did not want to reload because it wasn’t fast enough, took to long... etc.
Some of you might remember posts in the reloading section where the new generation asked “ So how many rounds can you reload in an hour ?”
My answer was the same, If you don’t have time to reload, don’t do it ! (Lots of kabooms back then also.)
Go drive as fast as you can and buy ammo !

I wonder what those impatient people are shooting these days ?

Stay healthy n be safe, Mike
 
Well stated. Reloading can be and is to me not just a way to save money (well it used to be that way), but a hobby and to find the most accurate load for any particular rifle. I am not a competitive target shooter, but there is a great deal of satisfaction in looking down range and seeing clover leafs at 100 yards (not that I shoot many of those any more) whereas factory ammo may be all over the place out of the rifle one has paid big bucks for.
 
I had some cash last summer and was slowly upgrading my reloading equipment. But I did not decide I wanted a new Redding Big Boss for the primer feed function until it was too late to get one. Now I guess I will just keep my Lee Classic forever. Maybe I would not like putting the primers in a tube anyway. I only drop 1 or so a session now with my ram primer and I do like the feel on the upstroke of the ram.

The press at Midway was interested. First they posted a "will be in stock" on a date. Then they said delayed for a long time. Now I think they are back to "out of stock. no backorder". And the shortage must be demand driven.
 
I had some cash last summer and was slowly upgrading my reloading equipment. But I did not decide I wanted a new Redding Big Boss for the primer feed function until it was too late to get one. Now I guess I will just keep my Lee Classic forever. Maybe I would not like putting the primers in a tube anyway. I only drop 1 or so a session now with my ram primer and I do like the feel on the upstroke of the ram.

The press at Midway was interested. First they posted a "will be in stock" on a date. Then they said delayed for a long time. Now I think they are back to "out of stock. no backorder". And the shortage must be demand driven.
Lees priming system is hard to beat for simplicity and ease of use. I just wish someone at lee would be like OK we have some good ****, so let’s make the twice as expensive version that is bad to the bone.
 
Gonna make a long story short. Guy had BNIB Dillon 223 dies. He wanted 200$ for them. I told him he was full of crap. Asked me if I had SPP which I do. Ended up swapping 1K SPP for the dies. I paid 25$ for 1K SPP.

See, that worked because of others “FOC” on their asking price for primers all it took were two people that had what the other wanted.
 
I would be willing to bet if the guys here offloaded the 8 out of 10 or 11 presses they had laying around there would be a lot less demand... they would get top dollar and clean up some space... I only have one or I would be purging....
I have a Lee 4 Hole Turret press that I paid $130 for new back around 2010. Just checked Amazon and they are actually available for $310.
I use it on a ammo prep bench to decap 5.56 and go straight to a Dillon Superswage to get the crimp out.
Then I cut them down with a micro chop saw and turn them into 300 BO.
For a process station there are still some options out there, but unless you stocked up on consumables your Goose just might be cooked for a little while.
 
I disagree. I think demand will be high from people that reloaded before the pandemic. Then, if prices stay high for ammo I bet 30% of ‘new’ reloaders hang on. It’s a very satisfying hobby once you get started.
 
I disagree. I think demand will be high from people that reloaded before the pandemic. Then, if prices stay high for ammo I bet 30% of ‘new’ reloaders hang on. It’s a very satisfying hobby once you get started.
it’s time consuming, and for some people time is money. Reloading is not for everyone and once new shooter/reloader realized that time/money saving is not there, they won’t reload as much.

Surplus reloading is coming!
 
Yea anyone thinking 3-6 months has forgot the last few times this happened. It’s never settled that quick after a big run up.
This time is different like I’ve said, mostly because it includes all firearms and ammo in all calibers. There has NEVER been a 30-30 ammo shortage.

there is a ton of new gun owners and all of them are realizing they need a lifetime supply of ammo. Even my Democrat friends are hoarding up ammo. They tell me Biden isn’t going to take our gunS and then a few minutes later they are asking if I know where they can get one of those drums of 5.56 ammo.
 
I will go as far as to predict $6.00+ gasoline.
Americans have millions of dollars they can't wait to spend on shootin' stuff. As we speak, enterprising entrepreneurs are maneuvering to fill the void.

Some interesting points. When gasoline hit over $4.00 a gallon here in NE Ohio I was driving 50 miles a day, about 250 miles a week in my truck which was a big block Suburban. So I figured about $100 a week in fuel. I forget what gas was selling for when I retired in 2013 but I noticed we seemed to have more disposable income. Wife and I both retired during the same year and if I filled both her and my truck they would sit and a month later still have near full tanks.

Current days I notice we seem to have plenty of extra money. Well with the COVID thing we only took one short vacation last summer and my sister paid the cabin cost so we have not spent money on much of anything. Then too, the US Government who financially is running on empty is writing checks my great, great grandchildren will be paying for. I figure before this show is said and done we will see a recession followed by depression and I am normally an optimist. I do agree right now average Americans are sitting on money they would love to be spending. Wish it was summer so I could get out on the outdoor range. :)

Ron
 
New guy here, in fact it is my first post. Been a lurker for a while, but decided to join in, since I'm the one you been talking about.

Been a lifelong shooter, not avid, but have a small selection of high quality tools and know how to use them. I'm not somebody who has ever had any interest in spraying up the place. More like a one shot, one kill type mindset. Because my volume has been so low, and factory was always available and adequate for what I was doing, factory it was. And saved ALL brass over the years in case reloading notion ever took root. That time has come.

The writing is on the wall. To keep the weapons functional for the long run, can no longer rely entirely on factory loads. So have begun collecting what is needed to make my own. Good news is that is not hard to find if you know where to look. In short order, have pieced together about 80% of what I will need.....only thing missing are two sets of dies.......and I can get started. I know the process and know what I'm getting myself into. Only goal is to get good enough at loading to get best out of factory hunting rifles, which is good enough for me.

And this is for the long haul........so if it takes me several months to get what I need, that's OK. In the end, hope to have what is needed to run out the string for me......and something to hand off to kids and grandkids.....so they can continue for as long as it's legal to do so.
 
This will probably sound contradictory to what I posted before, but I do have one additional motivation. I am current custodian of my oldest kid's rifle, which he bought and set up for long range shooting when he got out of the Marines. Both long range target and hunting. Rifle has killed a lot of deer at close range, but has never lived up to expectations of accuracy at a distance. He shot expert in Marines.......they even invited him to go to sniper school......so he wasn't the problem.

Until he gets back, I'm using the opportunity to work with the gun to see if I can ID the problem. Factory ammo may be part of it. But that is also going to require a lot more shooting in volume. So reloads factor in there as well.
 
This will probably sound contradictory to what I posted before, but I do have one additional motivation. I am current custodian of my oldest kid's rifle, which he bought and set up for long range shooting when he got out of the Marines. Both long range target and hunting. Rifle has killed a lot of deer at close range, but has never lived up to expectations of accuracy at a distance. He shot expert in Marines.......they even invited him to go to sniper school......so he wasn't the problem.

Until he gets back, I'm using the opportunity to work with the gun to see if I can ID the problem. Factory ammo may be part of it. But that is also going to require a lot more shooting in volume. So reloads factor in there as well.
If the rifle is finicky with ammo I’d have smith change the barrel and do an action job. A good rifle shoots descent with about anything.
 
To give a little bit more insight into my motivation.......about 10 years ago, I bought a cheap springer air rifle to plug starlings off my bird feeders. It was a poor choice......low powered, and inaccurate to boot. That led to purchase of first one, then another Beeman air rifles. The story with those is you find a pellet that works and stick with it. The folks I bought guns from even offered a sample box of about 25 of every pellet they sold. You just started through the box shooting groups, and when you found what the rifle liked, that was your pellet. I could not believe how much difference there was......at 10 yards you could get a 10 shot group as large as an inch or more.......or put all 10 nearly through the same hole. My first introduction to the affect ammo choice made. End result was I can now take one of those to a range, setup 5 pieces of 45 caliber range brass at 50 yards, and knock off 4 out of 5 of those on the first shot.

To translate that to a big bore, if I can get them all to the point I can put up 5 bottle caps at 100 yards, set the crosshairs on the bottom and knock off all 5, I'm there. I doubt I can do that with factory ammo. If I did, I would consider myself extremely lucky.
 
Had to see for myself, FS Reloading is COMPLETELY sold out of Lee and Lyman presses. Nothing on hand but a couple RCBS. Not that I need one anyway, Already have an Orange Crusher keeping my Classic Cast company.
 
Don’t panic people... $9 9mm and $6 5.56 will come back! If they can make a profit a year ago they still can!

Here a Tip! STOP BUYING COMPONENTS AND AMMO in February
 
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