AJC1
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If primers were on sale tomorrow for 30 dollars a thousand, how fast would you mortgage your house.
I'm not the least bit aggravated.....I learned from past gun/ammunition/component/etc shortages. I expect there will be more, so I buy cheap and stack deep.I feel like shortages are becoming more of the norm for shooting sports, rather than the exception. Personally speaking, this is really starting to become a huge aggravation for me, and I'm not sure if/when this ongoing cycle of shortages will ever end. It has gotten to the point where it has made me skip range trips just to avoid using up the limited ammo/component stock I have for some firearms.
You forgot panic buying after well publicisized mass shootings: Sandy Hook, Ft Hood, Auroroa, etc .......all cause renewed panic buying.I'm not even just talking about the current Biden/COVID induced shortage of everything shooting related, but rather the ongoing and cyclic shortages we seem to have experienced in supplies for the past 25 years or so. It seems like I can't even think of more than a few consecutive years where there weren't shortages popping up, and here's a non-exhaustive list just to name a few examples:
1) Panic after the Clinton-era AWB caused a run on lots of stuff.
2) Y2K caused another run on stuff.
3) 2008-2016 we experienced ongoing shortages due to the Obama presidency, particularly among reloading supplies, and mostly due to unfounded internet rumors about regulations that would never come to pass.
4) 2019-present we're experiencing shortages due to another Democrat taking office, and the whole COVID-19 mess.
Ultimately YOU are the problem. Failure to plan for shortages means you'll be the one whining on a gun forum that you can't find primers, rimfire or 9X21 hollowpoints.I know the old advice given on this (and other) forums has simply been to stock up, stock up, and stock up. If I'm being honest, I've likely given that advice myself during times of plenty, but this still isn't really a reasonable long-term answer.
As are food and water. And your point is?For starters, ammunition and reloading supplies are inherently finite and consumable. You can work your way through any size stockpile of components, and eventually you'll need to replenish them if you ever use them.
And a fat man likes to eat.I don't know about you guys, but I don't buy a ton of ammunition to have it just sitting around like a decoration... I like to shoot! During the last big shortage I was competing a lot, and spent around 2 days per week on the range with my precision rifles. It became very difficult to keep up with supplies back then, even when I bought in bulk.
That's called poor planning. Kinda stupid to go buy a new .499 magnum when you have no clue as to ammunition or component cost and availability. That's poor research that's entirely on the buyer.Beyond that, needs and interests change. These days if you go and buy a gun in a caliber you haven't previously owned, there's a really reasonable chance you won't even be able to find ammo for it! Or, if you decide to try a new type of competitive shooting that isn't using the same ammo you used in a previous endeavor, you might find you don't have access to what you need for that new venture.
False.It just amazes me that for roughly 11 of the past 13 years it has often proven difficult to find ammo/reloading supplies in stock on a regular basis. This problem struck me again today as I started looking for components to load some stuff I haven't historically loaded much of in the past; naturally I've found those components to be sold out nearly everywhere (as expected).
Sorry, but wishful thinking will see you continue to be the guy with no ammo and no primers. There have always been periods of panic buying and always will.I'm sure I'm not the only one dealing with this, but I sure do hope the current panic subsides (again) sooner rather than later! Better yet, I hope someday people grow tired of panic buying every time the political winds change, and maybe we'll find ourselves with a more balanced and robust inventory of shooting supplies!
I can vouch for this. 2016-18 were the worst years I ever had running a gun shop. You couldn't give anything away. Brand new AR-15s on clearance for $400 and people turned their noses up, and ammo rotted on the shelves. Handguns marked down to my cost plus $20 I've been running guns for nearly 20 years and I've never seen the bottom fall out of the market like that.
I don't want to like your post. But I believe it. I'm set indefinitely on muzzleloader except caps.In the past week there has been a gigantic run on black powder and substitutes as the news of the Goex closure filters out. The smokepole brigade is now in the ditch with everyone else.
I don't want to like your post. But I believe it. I'm set indefinitely on muzzleloader except caps.
I don't have to make caps yet. So I'm not worried about it. I can always change the lock and thimble to flint.Caps are easy to make. As for black powder, if Chinese peasants could do it a thousand years ago...
I don't have to make caps yet. So I'm not worried about it. I can always change the lock and thimble to flint.
Flintlock.Matchlock?
Based on what I see at the range, it's not new enthusiasts. Just unsafe wannabesDo we really have that many new shooters joining our ranks?
Certainly gun sales are way up, but an awful lot of those sales are probably going to folks like us (the enthusiasts with more guns than they already need). In the anecdotal cases where I’ve see new shooters buying a gun because of XYZ concern, they’re often buying just one gun and one or two boxes of ammo... not 8 pound jugs of smokeless powder, or primers by the thousands, etc.
Admittedly I think it would be great if the ranks of shooting enthusiasts swells by a large margin, I just wonder if that’s actually happening.
I'm not the least bit aggravated.....I learned from past gun/ammunition/component/etc shortages. I expect there will be more, so I buy cheap and stack deep.
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Ultimately YOU are the problem. Failure to plan for shortages means you'll be the one whining on a gun forum that you can't find primers, rimfire or 9X21 hollowpoints.
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As are food and water. And your point is?
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And a fat man likes to eat.
Whether your diet is 1,000 rounds a day or 10,000 calories a day.............manage yourself.
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That's called poor planning. Kinda stupid to go buy a new .499 magnum when you have no clue as to ammunition or component cost and availability. That's poor research that's entirely on the buyer.
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False.
In the last thirteen years that I've been an FFL there have been plenty of opportunities to stock up on ammunition or components. That you experienced an awakening today doesn't mean those components haven't been available over the last thirteen years.
Fall of 2018 I bought 30,000 rounds of .22LR from Palmetto State Armory......shipped free and I got sixty free PMags.
Sorry, but wishful thinking will see you continue to be the guy with no ammo and no primers. There have always been periods of panic buying and always will.
Start planning now and it won't hurt so bad next time.
I feel like shortages are becoming more of the norm for shooting sports, rather than the exception.
There are many parables in The Bible about being prepared and listening to sound advise.
I warned MANY people during the "salad years" that now was the time...and most ignored me.
As far as shortages, it's not just ammo. A small local supermarket and a large chain supermarket I frequent both have had shelves with large gaps and missing items. Transportation issues of not enough truck drivers, shipping issues of not enough unloaders have created supply bottlenecks.
As far as ammo stocking during fat times, I was one of those here making a case for that. The shortages in the past 20 years or so have been cyclical. After a few of these people should have realized that taking a sandwich from home once a week and buying a box of ammo to stock instead of buying lunch out that day made sense supply wise.
It also made economic sense. I had enough 9mm I'd bought at $8 a box to sell below the current inflated prices and still make a healthy profit.
Same for .223 and 7.62x39. Wish I had more shotshell target loads though, what was I thinking? lol
You mean, ppl don't use any forethought and buy tires for the vehicle not purchased yet? Whuddathunkit...ammo we buy. I also couldn't possibly stock up for things like calibers I hadn't yet become interested in, or for types of shooting sports in which I wasn't yet participating. For...
...and that was the background for my signature line....response when I saw the original post, but you beat me to it.
Seven lean cows devour seven fat cows. Seven thin ears of corn devour the seven fat ears of corn.
A prudent man foresees...