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As long as someone is not prevented from owning or possessing a firearm, they are able to carry concealed. Essential, it relies on the laws already on the books to determine who is or is not prohibited from owning or possessing a firearm, if you are not a prohibited person then you can carry. There are no other steps to go through to make sure you are not a prohibited person.
 
I'll probably get in trouble for even going here, but I keep seeing some stranger things on every internet firearms-related forum over the past couple of weeks. Coincidental?

New member joins a forum, does not provide a profile, and immediately starts several threads asking questions for which the information is readily available using any number of search engines. Many of the questions, if not purely political in nature, touch on RKBA concepts and state laws and practices.

It's almost as though there are some members of the media, writers, politicians' junior staff members or other folks with an agenda infiltrating the forums, are attempting to see how members of gun forums respond to questions or think...

OP, apologies if you are a sincere newcomer to gun-ownership and/or the RKBA movement, but if you've found this forum, surely you can figure out how to get the information you seek without publicly asking on a world-wide accessible internet forum. It's not that any of us here have anything to protect (other than the RKBA) or hide, but the manner in which you ask questions, along with the nature of the questions, rather makes it appear that you seeking information other than what you're asking...
 
No, it's all sincere

How do you know if the permitless carrier is not a prohibited person?
 
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A person needs to under go a background check when purchasing a firearm at a gun show or a gun shop. Does it mean I can strap on a gun without undergoing any other process? What it's mean if permitless carry was passed in my state and I carry? Does it mean I can burn my permit and go outside and still carry?
 
You don't know. Someone that ignores the law is a criminal. Unfortunately law abiding citizens are at a disadvantage in having to be reactive when a criminal makes his intentions known..
Know the law, carry your firearm everyday and everywhere it is legal, keep your head on a swivel, be aware of your surroudings and practice with your firearm as often as possible. If you're financially able to invest in some training with competent instructors.

To answer your question, where I live it's a good thing to have a firearm permit as it expedites the over the counter purchase of a firearm but it's not needed.
 
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Alte Schule said:
You don't know. Someone that ignores the law is a criminal. Unfortunately law abiding citizens are at a disadvantage in having to be reactive when a criminal makes his intentions known..
Know the law, carry your firearm everyday and everywhere it is legal, keep your head on a swivel, be aware of your surroudings and practice with your firearm as often as possible. If you're financially able to invest in some training with competent instructors.

To answer your question, where I live it's a good thing to have a firearm permit as it expedites the over the counter purchase of a firearm but it's not needed.
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It not is needed because you eliminated the need for one. :(
 
lovehappiness22 said:
A person needs to under go a background check when purchasing a firearm at a gun show or a gun shop. Does it mean I can strap on a gun without undergoing any other process? What it's mean if permitless carry was passed in my state and I carry? Does it mean I can burn my permit and go outside and still carry?
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If you reside in a state where permitless concealed carry is legal, and you just legally bought a gun at a gun store, the yes. You can put on a holster, load the gun, put the gun in the holster, conceal it, and go carry it wherever it is legal to do so. So you could legally do what a criminal would already do illegally.

Whilst you could burn your permit, you might wish you hadn't for at least a couple reasons:

Firstly, it's proof that you went through whatever background checks and qualification courses are mandate by your state, that aren't part of the background check to buy a gun at a store. It shows you went above and beyond, rather than just not showing up in a NICS database search.

Secondly, if you want to travel to another state, even if they have permitless concealed carry there, it may only be for residents of that state. Which you would not be.
 
lovehappiness22 said:
It not is needed because you eliminated the need for one. :(
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But you can STILL have one. I know I would, because of travel into states with carry permit reciprocity. Alte Schule points out another good reason to still have one, though not all states use a carry permit to expedite firearm purchases. My state still does a full background check per firearm purchase, regardless of if you have a carry permit.
 
"Secondly, if you want to travel to another state, even if they have permitless concealed carry there, it may only be for residents of that state. Which you would not be."

Do you want permitless carry to be for everyone and not just for residents of a state?
 
WrongHanded said:
If you reside in a state where permitless concealed carry is legal, and you just legally bought a gun at a gun store, the yes. You can put on a holster, load the gun, put the gun in the holster, conceal it, and go carry it wherever it is legal to do so. So you could legally do what a criminal would already do illegally.

Whilst you could burn your permit, you might wish you hadn't for at least a couple reasons:

Firstly, it's proof that you went through whatever background checks and qualification courses are mandate by your state, that aren't part of the background check to buy a gun at a store. It shows you went above and beyond, rather than just not showing up in a NICS database search.

Secondly, if you want to travel to another state, even if they have permitless concealed carry there, it may only be for residents of that state. Which you would not be.
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And thirdly, with the permit, you are exempt from certain restrictions in gun free school zones . I don't think that is the case with permit-less carry.
 
Jeff H said:
And thirdly, with the permit, you are exempt from certain restrictions in gun free school zones . I don't think that is the case with permit-less carry.
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Just to clarify; exempt on how close you can get to a gun free school zone. I believe without a permit you can not get within 1,000 feet of school property with a gun. With a permit, you can get up to the property line. Nobody (exceptions for LEO and approved individuals) can actually enter school property with a gun though, permit or not.
 
Old Dog said:
I'll probably get in trouble for even going here, but I keep seeing some stranger things on every internet firearms-related forum over the past couple of weeks. Coincidental?

New member joins a forum, does not provide a profile, and immediately starts several threads asking questions for which the information is readily available using any number of search engines. Many of the questions, if not purely political in nature, touch on RKBA concepts and state laws and practices.

It's almost as though there are some members of the media, writers, politicians' junior staff members or other folks with an agenda infiltrating the forums, are attempting to see how members of gun forums respond to questions or think...

OP, apologies if you are a sincere newcomer to gun-ownership and/or the RKBA movement, but if you've found this forum, surely you can figure out how to get the information you seek without publicly asking on a world-wide accessible internet forum. It's not that any of us here have anything to protect (other than the RKBA) or hide, but the manner in which you ask questions, along with the nature of the questions, rather makes it appear that you seeking information other than what you're asking...
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I'm 100% in agreement with you. The problem is you can't lock people like that out. So we just have to be the best possible ambassadors for the Second Amendment we can be.
 
lovehappiness22 said:
A person needs to under go a background check when purchasing a firearm at a gun show or a gun shop. Does it mean I can strap on a gun without undergoing any other process? What it's mean if permitless carry was passed in my state and I carry? Does it mean I can burn my permit and go outside and still carry?
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The IPs you have return to Sweden and New York City. So I suspect you are using a VPN, nothing wrong with that. It's is very dependant on the laws in your state. If we knew what state you live in, we could provide better information.
 
Permit less carry makes the ultimate sense.
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Since criminals obey no laws and care absolutely nothing about GFSZ's and No Guns Allowed signage ,why should any law abiding citizen of legal age, with no felonies or mental issues, be strapped with having to go through the process and expense of getting a piece of paper to carry in their wallet?

That makes no sense and now 24 states and counting have gotten it right.
 
Ethan Verity said:
Just to clarify; exempt on how close you can get to a gun free school zone. I believe without a permit you can not get within 1,000 feet of school property with a gun. With a permit, you can get up to the property line. Nobody (exceptions for LEO and approved individuals) can actually enter school property with a gun though, permit or not.
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Also allows you on school property if directly in the act of picking up/dropping off kids.
 
IJ1981 said:
Permit less carry makes the ultimate sense.
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Since criminals obey no laws and care absolutely nothing about GFSZ's and No Guns Allowed signage ,why should any law abiding citizen of legal age, with no felonies or mental issues, be strapped with having to go through the process and expense of getting a piece of paper to carry in their wallet?

That makes no sense and now 24 states and counting have gotten it right.
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now 25.
 
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