Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by TruthTellers, Mar 25, 2016.
Really? The Governor signed the bill yesterday afternoon, sounds pretty current to me.
Congrats from Maine. Welcome to the club, Idaho!
^ "Congrats from Maine. Welcome to the club, Idaho! "
"Hi, I'm from Colorado. Can I come in?"
"Really? The Governor signed the bill yesterday afternoon, sounds pretty current to me."
This topic had already been posted....TT just did not read it. how many threads does this need?
Good news. Little annoying though that permitless carry inside city limits is limited to Idaho residents. Just like Wyoming. Does anyone know if there's any sort of reasoning behind that or is it just thumbing their nose at those of us who live in other states and visit there?
My guess is it's just part of the continuum of restoring the 2a. The same people who said blood would run in the streets if permitted carry was allowed are demanding the new restrictions.
Look at all the individual states laws and you'll see a lot of quirky restrictions that were done to appease legislators or Governors.
Not only did Idaho get permitless concealed carry, but Idaho also sent a strong message that Bloomberg with all his money and 'influence' could not stop the will of the people of Idaho or the will of the governor.
Bloomberg has egg on his face.
From a couple of days ago
"Unfortunately, out-of-state billionaire and former New York City mayor, Michael Bloomberg, has once-again launched a misinformation campaign aimed at undermining the rights of law-abiding Idahoans. Bloomberg-funded gun control groups are misrepresenting facts and statistics in an attempt to persuade your elected officials to oppose SB 1389. "
Even if you don't live in Idaho or pass through there. This is a huge win for all of us as gun owners! We won and we won big! And we beat Bloomberg too!
And now when we try to pass permitless legislation in our own states, we can merely point to the growing number of states that already have passed it and use them as examples.
How many states have passed permitless carry in just the past year? Kansas, Maine, West Virginia and now Idaho. Did I miss a state or two?
Four states in one year is impressive...and cause for celebration!
Doesn't make much sense. Alaska, Arizona and Vermont have had total permitless carry for years with no problems. Vermont since 1777.
Kudos to Butch Otter! I knew that we could count on him. In Arizona any adult who can LEGALLY carry can carry concealed without any license or permit. Open carry has always been legal in Arizona. It's a great state for the Second Amendment.
It's not going to matter in certain states. States with majority Democrat legislatures will NEVER pass permitless carry and even traditionally pro gun states, like Texas or the rest of the South won't do it either because, IMO, it's got to do with the large minority populations.
Nope, the good 'ole boys don't like the idea of letting any black kid in his 20's have the ability to carry a concealed weapon without going through the system.
At this point the only other states I think of that have a chance at passing permitless carry in the near future are Montana, North/South Dakota, Utah, Oklahoma, New Hampshire, and Oklahoma.
We could have had it in Kentucky this year, but it had poison pill legislation in there which included 'force of law signage'. That was an unacceptable. We managed to get the wording changed, but it was too late. We will try again in 2017.
News report on it.
Get up on the wrong side of the bed this morning?
Some people don't read all the sub-boards.
Congrats, I sure wish Texas would follow suit.
Good for you all in Idaho...
Our local fish wrap is very excited to see the passage of this bill.
The fish wrap's comments section on the article is a real hoot to read! Dozens of replies. And this is in Idaho, where owning a gun is as normal as breathing.
You gotta wonder where all these people come from.
While I certainly am in full support of Constitutional carry, the author of that article does make a semi valid point. His opening statements are a bit misleading but part of what he says is accurate, especially in small towns where it's possible for almost the entire town to be within 1000 ft. of a school. I guarantee that there are huge numbers of gun owners out there, I would venture to say even the majority, who don't know about the nuances of the GFSZ Act. Now, that being said, in practical terms it's probably a moot point in many cases because cops in those towns are unlikely to hassle somebody who is otherwise legally concealed carrying without a permit but happens to be 900 ft. from the school. Thing is all it takes is that one cop who doesn't take his oath to uphold the Constitution seriously to ruin it for somebody who was misinformed or ignorant. What needs to happen is for the GFSZ Act to be repealed. Don't really see that happening real soon though.
According to Idaho state law one can lawfully be on a school campus with a firearm as long is it stays in the private property of the owners vehicle. So I can drop my kids off at school in the parking lot of the school as long as my firearm stays in my personal vehicle. So the whole 900-1000 ft issue is a non issue if one has a concealed carry permit, just like the article states, the writer brings up a very valid point on those who decide to use the constitutional permitless carry.
18-3309. Authority of Governing Boards of Public Colleges and Universities Regarding Firearms
(1) The board of regents of the university of Idaho, the boards of trustees of the state colleges and universities, the board of professional-technical education and the boards of trustees of
each of the community colleges established under chapter 21, title 33, Idaho Code, hereby have the authority to prescribe rules and regulations relating to firearms.
(2) Notwithstanding any other provision of state law, this authority shall not extend to regulating or prohibiting the otherwise lawful possession, carrying or transporting of firearms or ammunition by persons licensed under section 18-3302H or 18-3302K, Idaho Code.
(a) However, a person issued a license under the provisions of section 18-3302H or 18- 3302K, Idaho Code, shall not carry a concealed weapon:
(i) Within a student dormitory or residence hall; or
(ii) Within any building of a public entertainment facility, provided that proper signage is conspicuously posted at each point of public ingress to the facility notifying attendees of any restriction on the possession of firearms in the facility during the game or event.
(b) As used in this section:
(i) "Public entertainment facility" means an arena, stadium, amphitheater, auditorium,
theater or similar facility with a seating capacity of at least one thousand (1,000) personsthat is owned or operated by the board of regents of the university of Idaho, a board of trustees of a state college or university, the state board of professional-technical education or a board of trustees of a community college established under chapter 21, title 33, Idaho Code, that is primarily designed and used for artistic, theatrical, cultural, charitable, musical, sporting or entertainment events, but does not include publicly accessible outdoor grounds or rights-of-way appurtenant to the facility, including parking lots within the facility used for the parking of motor vehicles.
(ii) "Student dormitory or residence hall" means a building owned or operated by the board of regents of the university of Idaho, a board of trustees of a state college or university, the state board of professional-technical education or a board of trustees of a community college established under chapter 21, title 33, Idaho Code, located on or within the campus area owned by the university or college to house persons residing on campus as students, but does not include off-campus housing or publicly accessible outdoor grounds or rights- of-way appurtenant to the building, including parking lots within the building used for the parking of motor vehicles.
(c) The provisions of subsection (2)(a) shall not apply to the following persons:
(i) A person or persons complying with the provisions of section 19-202A, Idaho Code.
(ii) A person or an employee who is authorized to carry a firearm by the university or college board of trustees, board of regents, governing board or a person or entity with authority over the building or facility.
(iii) A person who possesses a firearm for authorized use in an approved program, event, activity or other circumstance approved by a person or entity with authority over the building or facility.
(iv) A person who possesses a firearm in a private vehicle while delivering students, employees or other persons to and from a university, college or public entertainment facility.
(v) An on-duty or off-duty certified peace officer.
I guess where this could be a problem is for a non-resident, or non-license holder traveling into close proximity to a school as they don't have the state license which grants them the right to carry in a personal vehicle.
Let the moderators be concerned with that kind of stuff, they do a great job with it.
We have to try again to get it repealed.
On July 21, 2011 US Representative Ron Paul introduced H.R. 2613 which would repeal the Federal Gun Free School Zones Act. It died in committee.
Residency status wouldn't matter as long as the non resident has a permit. Idaho recognizes all of the other states permits.
I think federal law is where non residents run a stray in school zones. Permit or not.
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