You Can Learn A Lot At The Gun Store

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I imagine the counter guy heard something which fitted his perceptions and is just passing it on. Checking for facts takes work, after all.

Yes - as far as I know CCI still makes primers in Lewiston, but they are all shipped off to a distribution center so we don’t have better availability in the local area.

It would be interesting to hear some facts about the primer plant in Texas. I haven’t seen any news for the last few months.
 
While I like go visit my LGS (only one in my town) the only thing I listen to is what they know/do. I believe what they tell me about how long my NICS is going to take, what they have in stock, and what something will cost me. Most of the rest is speculation, "I heard", and guesses, which I take with a grain of Bullseye...
 
9mmepiphany said:
That's a pretty good price, depending on what they charge for HazMat. The best prior price I've seen for Genix SPP has been $450/5k, but that included shipping and HazMat

I noticed that these are for the brass primers as opposed to the nickled ones. The ones with the nickle color primers are a lot harder to find
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$419.99 TOTAL

Shipping and HazMat included
 
EMC45 said:
Take a peek at what Vista/Freedom Group/Cerberus etc owns....You'll be shocked. The gun counter guy wasn't completely wrong....
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Which makes rumor and gossip around the gun counter considerably more accurate than the so-called "Free Press." :scrutiny:
Part of the problem is, people have short memories but change habits slowly, For months all anyone will remember is, "[Name Your Favorite Powder] is unavailable," long after it is plentiful. Rumor and small talk and old forum posts will inform people more than a WebSpider search ever could.
 
eddiememphis said:
Numbers vary but several sources quote total ammo production around 9 billion rounds annually. 1.5 million to the proxy war is not a significant amount.
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And of course it’s 9 billion total for all possible calibers vs. 1.5 mil of a small handful of calibers for Ukraine in this 20th tranche. But hold on I’m starting to get into research for no real purpose.
 
This primer racquet will eventually end. Unless loading your own ammunition becomes illegal, I'm pretty sure they will come back around and prices back in the ballpark they used to be. Not as low priced as they used to be, but I believe they will settle somewhere around 4 cents per. At one point some hoarders buying millions of primers at 7-9 cents each will be taking a huge loss on them.

I heard a story of a guy Dale who bought tens of thousands of 9mm back in 2020 at 70 or 80 cents a round....from a crummy no-name overseas manufacturer.... he's been seen at gun shows trying to pettle the stuff to this day with little success.... my heart aches for him. Don't be a Dale y'all.
 
uuolf said:
But hoarding is one of the reasons for the primer desert... (Not the least or only reason though) Really I'm just mad at myself because I didn't hoard any of them when they were cheap... At 10¢ each (over 15¢ at times during the dempanic) somebody will fill the void soon...
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That’s no different than other panics except everyone already has a closet full of AR’s and mags that hold more than 10 rounds. AWB, Obama re-election/sandy hook, people bought up everything they could at stupid prices because “they were all going to be gone”. You could tell who did that because after the panic petered out they were the ones trying to sell $650 AR’s for $1500 because they were not touching the principal on the $2000 price they put on their credit card.

I pondered selling off some as the prices people will pay would make me a healthy profit but I decided to not let greed guide my decisions.
 
jmorris said:
That’s no different than other panics except everyone already has a closet full of AR’s and mags that hold more than 10 rounds. AWB, Obama re-election/sandy hook, people bought up everything they could at stupid prices because “they were all going to be gone”. You could tell who did that because after the panic petered out they were the ones trying to sell $650 AR’s for $1500 because they were not touching the principal on the $2000 price they put on their credit card.

I pondered selling off some as the prices people will pay would make me a healthy profit but I decided to not let greed guide my decisions.
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I don’t think it’s greedy at all to sell something at the most astronomical price to a willing buyer provided it’s not greedy to NOT give the same thing to a needy person.

(Hey, that’s pretty good…almost profound…did I just create that?)
 
Cliff6 said:
That is a good price....has anyone dealt with this company? I've never heard of it. Legit?
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Yeah I see the Ginex and Servicios & Aventuras primers selling for under 8 cents. I'm still stocked up, so not buying yet, but has anyone used either of these primers?
 
Swampman said:
I bet Mark_Mark was behind it...
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10 Days Later

CCi #10 rare caps $5.99 no limit . @big Box Sportsman

Primers are on the shelves here, and if your desperate.. $110 at Cabelas and Bass Pro. They are pricing like it 2021 or something. Same with their .223 and 9mm .. Thumbs WAY DOWN!

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CQB45ACP said:
I don’t think it’s greedy at all to sell something at the most astronomical price to a willing buyer provided it’s not greedy to NOT give the same thing to a needy person.

(Hey, that’s pretty good…almost profound…did I just create that?)
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I've been selling but I've got a lot of excess property to sell. I just traded a Star BM 9mm in fair condition for a Taurus 85 full underlug snubby in fair condition, a $100 bill, and a gallon zip lok full of mixed HS .38Spl brass. A 7-shot 9mm for a 5-shot .38Spl and some cash plus some nice brass is a good deal in my book. I think it's more than fair. The other fellow doesn't reload and couldn't find .38Spl ammo but 9mm is "plentiful and cheap."
 
EMC45 said:
Take a peek at what Vista/Freedom Group/Cerberus etc owns....You'll be shocked.
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You might be too. Vista isn’t Freedom/Cerberus. Folks commonly conflate the two conglomerates because 1) they’re larger (or at least WERE in the case of Freedom/Cerberus/Remington Outdoor), and 2) because folks fail to differentiate between rich investor/founder/owners of Steve Feinberg who founded Cerberus and George Soros who at one time invested in Vista.
 
I knew they were different. Vista is the mega conglomerate now.
 
Palladan44 said:
This primer racquet will eventually end. Unless loading your own ammunition becomes illegal, I'm pretty sure they will come back around and prices back in the ballpark they used to be. Not as low priced as they used to be, but I believe they will settle somewhere around 4 cents per. At one point some hoarders buying millions of primers at 7-9 cents each will be taking a huge loss on them.

I heard a story of a guy Dale who bought tens of thousands of 9mm back in 2020 at 70 or 80 cents a round....from a crummy no-name overseas manufacturer.... he's been seen at gun shows trying to pettle the stuff to this day with little success.... my heart aches for him. Don't be a Dale y'all.
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The only folks I personally know that are buying primers at current prices are doing it either because they need 'em to keep shooting, or because they're afraid that primers may not be available at all in the future.

Do you have personal knowledge of any "hoarders buying 'millions' of primers at 7-9 cents each"?
 
Swampman said:
The only folks I personally know that are buying primers at current prices are doing it either because they need 'em to keep shooting, or because they're afraid that primers may not be available at all in the future.

Do you have personal knowledge of any "hoarders buying 'millions' of primers at 7-9 cents each"?
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Secondhand sellers on sites like gunbroker is a starting place for people buying what's in stock from retailers, to try to resell and make $. It's unfortunately what happens when in-demand products get scarce.
 
Yesterday - Friday, 23 September 2022 - I bought 200 CCI small rifle primers at a local gun shop. This was a recent delivery.
When did the three companies stop selling primers to the general public?
I can understand that a large company wanting two million primers (I just picked that number out of the air, no insider information) would get priority, but that does not signify a decision to end other sales.
This too shall pass. Maybe not soon enough to suit many of us (me included) but it will pass.
 
I was thinking of buying a case of primers(without telling the boss) and then going to the club and selling off to re-fill the big hole in my check book, before the boss notices.
Problem is shooters still scoff at the $100/brick price.[/QUOTE]
 
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I was thinking of buying that(without telling the boss) and then going to the club and selling off to re-fill the big whole in my check book, before the boss notices.
Problem is shooters still scoff at the $100/brick price.

This ^^^^

was NOT my quote!

Wanted to make that clear. I have not sold any components, I have done a few trades and gifts to friends.

chris
 
I feel your pain.....I especially felt it last time we had a shortage thanks to Obamas's election. Actually I had it worse at first because I had a Pro 2000 that use APS stripped primers. And when the run on primers happened, normal boxed primers disappeared first and I thought I was fortunate. Then the hoarders bought up all the APS stuff and deprimed the strips and threw them away! One guy destripped them and filled quart glass jars with them. Can you imagine the explosive power of one of those jars? Anyway picture below is all I had left....enough for a month but that's about all:

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This time I was a little more prepared:

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Not exactly a hoard....maybe a 2 year supply......probably a 6 month supply for some of you. But you will notice that I didn't buy just APS.....I do have a strip loader, and you get primers when you can. In fact now there IS no more APS primers made by CCI. (I think I got one of the last cases of 5000.) So if you have an APS press or bench primer you have to load strips now. I do have a lifetime supply of strips and I make boxes for them.....see the two white boxes with copied labels. That meant I had to create a .pdf file of a spread-out box......next picture. I print them on card stock and cut them out with a utility knife. Good enough.....for a while.....while they still make us primers in any form......

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Boxes at the top both hold a 1000 primers....the white one is one I printed and filled with strips. 4 strips = 100 primers. 4 strips are stuck onto white labels from Avery that have removable stick'em.

If there happens to any of you doing still doing APS, that PDF file is available below....Just download and print.
 

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gonoles_1980 said:
Yeah I see the Ginex and Servicios & Aventuras primers selling for under 8 cents. I'm still stocked up, so not buying yet, but has anyone used either of these primers?
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I haven't used the Ginex but read a lot of posts about those who did who said they all went bang and no problems with accuracy. I'm kicking myself for not buying 5K LPP when they were on AmmoSeek for $0.08 each. I have 1,500 or so Federals in my stash but enjoy shooting my new New Vaquero in .45 Colt.

If the reloading equipment manufacturers and retailers are going to stay in business, some one will eventually have to make primers available.
 
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