Never happens to me….

Ooops.....
Well, I guess a couple of Eric Holder's Cartel buddies now know what happened to their missing order.

Lucky for them that there was not a gun missing from the shipment in the first place.
Would have been hard to explain that away.

I found a couple of cases of Chinese 7.62 pistol ammo in a cargo container of 18" pipe elbows
that was delivered to our job.
The container was from China of course.
Boss called the local police to fetch it.
Made me wonder just who in Long Beach came out short on the nightly count and how the shortage was handled!

JT

If I got a crate like that, I am not telling anyone. Not even my wife...

Hey look a free batch of something illegal. Definitely not a trap and definitely not any type of GPS tracker hidden anywhere in it. I wonder what the time limit was for the recipients to report the guns to the authorities before the trap was sprung?

I’m just being silly! There’s no shady crooked stuff going on against Americans!

Years ago, Hill AFB was disposing of large quantities of assorted surplus stuff. One buyer unpacked his lot and found three brand new Thompsons. I have often wondered how that eventually worked out. Certainly the first move is to immediately put them in possession of an FFL licensed to handle them.

Possession and ownership are two different things. If the military transferred ownership, then the buyer owns the items. But that doesn't give the buyer the right to have control of the property.

There was a case a few years ago of a fellow who bought a strange piece of electronic equipment at a UPS lost freight auction. Trying to figure out what it was, he contacted the manufacturer. Turned out that it was a highly classified frequency agile radar component. He owned it, free and clear. But the Air Force took possession of it, and reportedly left him with no home mortgage.

Three S come to mind only in a different order. Shovel, shut up, then shoot.

https://abc13.com/resellers-receive...-boxes-m16s-shipped-to-houston-ebay/12269500/

I'm a pretty honest person but, as a firearm enthusiast, I will admit the thought of keeping them would cross my mind but the more pervasive thought of being caught and doing the federal perp walk in addition to the embarrassment to myself and family would nix that idea.

Something to think about. These folks did the right thing and got a federal search warrant for their troubles.

Yet you know you're not going to be reimbursed

Thats going to become a civil case between the seller of the gun cases and the buyers.

And I can also see one between the de-mil contractors who obtained the stuff and the seller of the cases who bought it to re-sell.

Musical litigation is the name of the game in cases like this.

Stay safe.

I want to see records- what the last agency was that held them on their property books, when they were taken off of the property books and why, and how they were to be disposed of or who the intended recipient was. THAT is something worth investigating, and it shouldn't be too hard to do. Those rifles at some point were purchased with US taxpayer $, and We The People have the right to know the story, along with the story of how positive control of these rifles was lost, with them fortunately ending up in the possession of some law abiding citizens who did the right thing and ended up in the middle of this mess. If I was a Texas politician, I would be demanding answers.

FL-NC said:

Those rifles at some point were purchased with US taxpayer $, and We The People have the right to know the story, along with the story of how positive control of these

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Hmm bought with taxpayer money. Doesn't that make them ours on loan to the military

The temptation is strong.

I agree 100% with @FL-NC .

There is a paper trail to be followed. The rifles were on someone's property books. And who ever messed up the paperwork or otherwise lost those rifles needs to be punished.

I can remember too many times being put on lockdown due to someone losing. rifle or pistol when I was in the Army.

d2wing said:

The temptation is strong.

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At least a quick range trip right?

"Parts kits."

I am close to Houston.. range day??

d2wing said:

The temptation is strong.

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I wouldn't want something that could get me into so much trouble- not to mention the fact that I can build a more modern and better performing version of the same thing cheap that wouldn't get me in any trouble.

That flibbydibby switch tho.

No good deed goes unpunished.

Note the ATF obtained a search warrant to search the reporting couple's storage unit.

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No good deed goes unpunished.

Note the ATF obtained a search warrant to search the reporting couple's storage unit.

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I believe I would have called my attorney before I called anyone else. It seems like the couple did not have a good customer service experience at all, given that they took the initiative themselves to contact the authorities to divest themselves of those dangerous and highly illegal items that were a threat to public safety- which they didn't want and never asked for. I believe they are owed an apology first, and then a reward. Since the fed. statute specifies a fine of up to $10K (not to mention the prison time) for every count of illegal possession, I think 10K is a good starting point for a discussion about a reward. Per weapon, of course. Since they were so honest in returning the dangerous property that the federal government failed to properly account for, which ended up in civilian hands, versus just selling them to some nefarious character in The Lone Star State, or just dumping them in the woods. Other compensations for things like seized property, time, stress, legal fees, and the like should maybe be discussed as well. These citizens did the right thing where our government failed, and their lives became more complicated as a result of doing the right thing.

Those woulda ended up in the walls wrapped up and oiled down.

I want nothing to do with property that the government considers to be both illegal and stolen from them... .

If you buy 100+ rifle storage cases, our government has a feeling you will be filling them with rifles to distribute to bad guys. The government then sends you some illegal rifles in the hopes that you sell them so they can bust you. OR, you report the illegal rifles to the proper authorities, so the government then can search for the other rifles they believe you were going to distribute in the first place.

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If you buy 100+ rifle storage cases, our government has a feeling you will be filling them with rifles to distribute to bad guys. The government then sends you some illegal rifles in the hopes that you sell them so they can bust you. OR, you report the illegal rifles to the proper authorities, so the government then can search for the other rifles they believe you were going to distribute in the first place.

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A few years back I would say this is crazy talk. Nowadays not so much. What a time to be alive!