savagelover
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Why was it called the 38/44?? I know it was a38 revolver,but where did the 44 part figure in??
Ok.thanks for the replies. Wonder if my sw 686 would handle those loads. 357. L frame.
Oh ya, easily.Ok.thanks for the replies. Wonder if my sw 686 would handle those loads. 357. L frame.
Just use published data with traditional slow powders like 2400 and you will get a close safe load that takes advantage of the extra barrel length.Would these loads be safe to try in my Rossi 92. Sounds interesting,might be a good accurate load with the 358/156 with a gas check. Appreciate all the above information..
If it will feed properly, yes. .38/44 pressures are comparable to or less than the .357 magnum, your Rossi is a .357 magnum rifle .Would these loads be safe to try in my Rossi 92. Sounds interesting,might be a good accurate load with the 358/156 with a gas check. Appreciate all the above information..
Would these loads be safe to try in my Rossi 92. Sounds interesting,might be a good accurate load with the 358/156 with a gas check. Appreciate all the above information..
I've also heard a lot of folks say that these loads were dangers because .38 brass is weaker. Hogwash! I tested the theory with el cheapo Winchester .38 brass and gave up after 22 loadings using Keith's 2400 data.
And correct me if I am wrong but Keith did indeed use the 358156 crimped in the lower crimp groove in order to make space for the extra charges. In essence he just made .357 Magnum loads in .38 brass. No need for that today though. But the man had a pair for sure.Actually .38-44 loads are well over 40,000psi. So any .357 should be able to handle them but don't think you're running at less pressure.
I've also heard a lot of folks say that these loads were dangers because .38 brass is weaker. Hogwash! I tested the theory with el cheapo Winchester .38 brass and gave up after 22 loadings using Keith's 2400 data.
I've had two of these guns, always wanted a nice 4" HD. First was a really nice 6.5" that I ended up trading for a Mundenized 629. Later came a well worn and awfully refinished 4" that was too bad to fix.
Actually .38-44 loads are well over 40,000psi.
How can you have one without the other?It seems that you were testing longevity, not strength.
How can you have one without the other?
But the .38-44 loading and the Heavy Duty revolver did eventually lead to the introduction of the .357 Magnum cartridge and handgun.
https://www.handgunsmag.com/editorial/the-sw-heavy-duty-revolver-and-its-38-44-cartridge/139175
In 1935 Smith and Wesson, aware that a shooter might chamber one of the high velocity rounds in a conventional 38 Special revolver, lengthened the case by about 1/10", creating the 357 Magnum cartridge. A new revolver, simply called The 357 Magnum was created at that time for the new 357 Magnum round. This led to the Registered Magnums, which had a production number stamped on the frame and they were registered at the factory to the owners. In 1957, when S&W changed over to a model number system, The 357 Magnum revolver became the Model 27.