Which Glock 9mm?

Jimfern said:
G26 I shoot it better than the 17.
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The G26 would have remained on my list, but I'm starting to get good with the SIG P365, it is still 100% reliable after 500-600 rounds (more than 2/3 JHP, with 100-150 rounds from one of the two loads that would be my carry load, and about 200 from the other), and now that my accuracy is coming back I'm finding its accuracy more than acceptable to about 20 yards. The P365 is smaller, yet has more room on the grip (especially with the 12 round mags, I've bought two). So, I don't really see what the G26 brings to the table that would have me carrying it over the P365. I do like that it has a small footprint for carry and can be loaded with 15 round G19 mags quite easily, but I'm OK with 12+1 in the P365.


Now, I do like the idea of standard 10 round mags since that is all I can buy in MD (as stated earlier, I can buy larger capacity mags elsewhere and bring them home, but the gun will come with 10 round mags due to MD laws). I hate the idea of the standard mags going to waste. That is the reason why the 43X returned to the list (and I don't 100% rule out the G26 returning to the list). If I lived in a state where I could buy 15 round mags here at home, I would easily buy the G19 at this point. The more I look, the more it seems the right gun (though, I may also get a 43X, and maybe get one before the G19). I have similar guns and do sometimes carry them when in a state where I can carry, and with the G19's lighter weight, and with me soon to get a MD permit, I can see it getting a lot of carry time. But again, I hate wasting the 3 free mags on "useless" 10 round mags, so the slightly more carry friendly 43X keeps its position high on the list, and may be the way I go. Though with the 12 round mags, the P365 also gives me the longer grip presentation and thin overall width that I like of the 43X, so it is part of what may push the 43X off the list too and makes the G19 the most likely contender.

I will be going to a range and renting later this week. I plan to rent the G19 and 43X. I'm not sure if they are a range that has a single rental fee and you can switch guns (but you can only have one at a time on that fee), or where they charge you a fee for each gun you try. I've been to ranges that do it both ways. If it is a single fee as long as you only have one rental gun out at a time, I may add a G26 to the list as well, but if it costs extra, I've mostly ruled it out so I won't.
 
So, I went with the Glock 19MOS. I love my CZ PCR, and something a similar size, but a tad narrower and several ounces lighter, will probably rival my SIG P365 as my most carried gun. As a nearly full sized gun, it should be easy to shoot well, handle well, and it will give a nice grip when drawing from the holster. Unfortunately, MD has a 7 day waiting period, so I can't pick it up until next week. Does this mean I won't get a G26 or G43X later, not necessarily. But for now, I decided the G19 was the better way to go.
 
chaim said:
So, I went with the Glock 19MOS. I love my CZ PCR, and something a similar size, but a tad narrower and several ounces lighter, will probably rival my SIG P365 as my most carried gun. As a nearly full sized gun, it should be easy to shoot well, handle well, and it will give a nice grip when drawing from the holster. Unfortunately, MD has a 7 day waiting period, so I can't pick it up until next week. Does this mean I won't get a G26 or G43X later, not necessarily. But for now, I decided the G19 was the better way to go.
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Its definitely a great choice.
 
Glock 17. I have a Glock 19 but it’s too big for regular concealed carry, especially when my Shield plus is way smaller and holds almost the same ammo. The 17 just feels perfect in my hands, at least as far as Glocks go.
 
Homerboy said:
Glock 17. I have a Glock 19 but it’s too big for regular concealed carry, especially when my Shield plus is way smaller and holds almost the same ammo. The 17 just feels perfect in my hands, at least as far as Glocks go.
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The Glock 22 that I recently bought is what has inspired me to buy more Glocks, I'm loving that pistol. It is the G17 sized gun in .40S&W. I can definitely see carrying it in some circumstances. Though, I doubt I'll get a G17, instead I'll eventually buy a 9mm conversion barrel and G17 mags for the G22 (though anytime I carry it or load it for home defense, it will be with the factory .40 barrel to insure maximum reliability). Anyway, the fact that it seems carryable in some circumstances, and I like as large a gun as I can get away with, this combo is what put the G19 on top (that, and I do love and sometimes carry my CZ PCR which is a similar size, but a bit heavier).
 
I tried the barrel swap thing when I was shooting SIG's and came to the conclusion youre better off with complete guns, that you actually shoot, than sitting on extra barrels and ammo that you dont, and tends just to sit there gathering dust.

In theory, it all sounds good, but in practice, I found I just tied up money I could have used elsewhere. I ended up selling all that stuff off, and luckily for me, Obama was in office scaring everyone, and I made a killing on the ammo that had shot up dramatically in price. :)
 
JimKirk said:
But I actually shoot the barrels ... I have other guns to feed that use the same ammo.... So there is nothing tied up that won't be used ...
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Depends on what your purpose/objective is.

Having the same "manual of arms" and trigger feel is great for fast shooting drills (I do defensive sighted and unsighted point shooting drills) with 22LR slide kit as you burn through a lot of ammunition but at much lower cost (I am shooting 22LR stocked up at below $20/500 back in 2019) - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...or-her-first-time-today.908729/#post-12369077

And I am finding that same trigger drill exericise readily transfers when switching back to 9mm/40S&W barrels as to POA and POI. Shooting other 22LR pistols may not help with your defensive practice of fast draw from holster, fast stance/grip and fast multiple shots at multiple targets as when switching to Glocks, trigger feel/grip angle will be different to produce different POI from POA - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?threads/trigger-control.834737/page-2#post-11245640
 
JTQ said:
Full size grip. You don't have to worry about pinching your palm during mag changes.

Edit to add: If it's just a range gun, I'd pick the G34.
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I certainly have had a few blood blisters on my palm from slamming mags into my 19 during mag changes, but I still tilt toward the 19 personally. I don't know why but my shots on target really open up when I shoot my 17..
 
chaim said:
So, I went with the Glock 19MOS. I love my CZ PCR, and something a similar size, but a tad narrower and several ounces lighter, will probably rival my SIG P365 as my most carried gun. As a nearly full sized gun, it should be easy to shoot well, handle well, and it will give a nice grip when drawing from the holster. Unfortunately, MD has a 7 day waiting period, so I can't pick it up until next week. Does this mean I won't get a G26 or G43X later, not necessarily. But for now, I decided the G19 was the better way to go.
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I can’t tell you how many obituaries I’ve read for the death of the Glock 19! Seems every year since the S&W Sigma, a new “Glock Killer” has been developed and unleashed on the shooting population.

M&P, CZ P10, Sig P250/320, Walther PPQ, Canik, XDm, and probably missing some others…

I’ve bought and tried a few…S&W, XDm, Walther, even Staccato (though not really a Glock replacement) and latest was a Sig P320X…all were shot at least 500 rounds. All functioned fine. All but the XDm’s were sold. And I’m still buying Glocks.

And I’ll readily admit and acknowledge Glock has some major flaws!

1. Their mags should hold more rounds. Why do I have to spend $40 on a Shield Arms S15 magazine for my G43X/48’s?

2. Why do they keep putting crappy plastic sights out on their guns? I am NOT asking for much…I can live with stock Glock metal sights…just get rid of the plastic ones!

3. Motto. Perfection? Please! Glocks rival AR’s with the number of aftermarket parts and accessories. Every part of a Glock can be replaced, many with simple yet better parts.

4. Ergonomics. It is a plastic frame!!!! How hard would it be for a polymer company to adjust it a bit???? I have medium size hands. I’d like a bit better ergonomics on the grip, especially with the large frame models. I finally sold my G20 for an XDm Elite because I just had to reposition my hands after each shot. Not good! So sadly, I sold it. Still have my G21 and it’s better due to soft shooting .45ACP.

But Glocks are pretty much my flavor, and I’m stuck in this relationship by choice. I like cheap and absolutely reliable magazines. I like the high bore axis. I like the simplicity of the engineering and my ability to tear it completely down and fix it. I like the interchangeably parts. I like the wear like iron finish. I like the Blue Lable program. I like how they shoot. I like that I’ve shot many thousands of rounds through my many Glocks, and NEVER had a malfunction that wasn’t ammo related.

I’ve bought OEM and Woolf magazine springs to replace springs in mags that have shot thousands of rounds…and never yet replaced the OEM mag springs.

So OP, welcome to the dark world of the Glock. It will serve you well, regardless if you coddle it or throw it in your truck tool box in your bag of wrenches and hammers. Load it up, shoot a couple mags just to be sure, and ease your mind knowing this ugly and much hated gun will work if and when I need it most!
 
DustyGmt said:
I certainly have had a few blood blisters on my palm from slamming mags into my 19 during mag changes, but I still tilt toward the 19 personally. I don't know why but my shots on target really open up when I shoot my 17..
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The G19 really does sound like their "just right" gun. You are far from the first person who said they shoot the G19 better than the G17. Then, a lot of people say it is almost as easy to conceal as the G26 (as easy if you do IWB and put a pinky extension or extended mag on the G26), and without the pinky extension on the G26 you have a dangling pinky, or you can have your whole hand on the grip of the G19.

This is really why I ignored my annoyance at the 3 10 round mags I'm going to get since I live in MD and went with the G19. It was too much the "just right" gun to go with something else. I'll just have to spend extra money ($50/mag plus gas) to go to PA, DE or VA to pick up normal capacity mags for it (maybe DE since they don't have sales tax).
 
chaim said:
The G19 really does sound like their "just right" gun.
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Conversely, the analogy I always use is the undersized college football defensive end that prior to the NFL draft is listed as a "tweener". He's really too small to play defensive end at the NFL level and too slow or can't cover well enough to play linebacker. You end up with a player that isn't a very good defensive end or linebacker. If you want a defensive end, draft someone big enough to play defensive end. If you want a linebacker, draft someone fast enough to play linebacker.

If you will only ever own one pistol, sure the G19 is probably a good choice. If you want a range or home defense gun, the G17 or G34 are probably better choices. For concealment, Glock has several that would probably conceal better than a G19. If you're LE, well we know why the G45 is available.
 
chaim said:
The G19 really does sound like their "just right" gun. You are far from the first person who said they shoot the G19 better than the G17. Then, a lot of people say it is almost as easy to conceal as the G26 (as easy if you do IWB and put a pinky extension or extended mag on the G26), and without the pinky extension on the G26 you have a dangling pinky, or you can have your whole hand on the grip of the G19.

This is really why I ignored my annoyance at the 3 10 round mags I'm going to get since I live in MD and went with the G19. It was too much the "just right" gun to go with something else. I'll just have to spend extra money ($50/mag plus gas) to go to PA, DE or VA to pick up normal capacity mags for it (maybe DE since they don't have sales tax).
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The 19 is basically a not so great compromise. The grip is cramped, and not very comfortable, and the gun isnt really much smaller than a 17 when you compare them side by side, so you give up a little and really dont gain anything for it.

You cant carry a 19 in places you can easily do so with the 26. The 19 is too close to the 17 in that respect.
Where the "difference" in size is, is between the 17 and the 26. There is enough of a difference there, to be a difference. If the choice is between the 19 and 17, the 17 makes the most sense.

The finger extensions for the 26 are unnecessary and defeat the purpose of the smaller gun. Once you figure it out and get used to wrapping your pinkie under the mag, the 26 has a secure and comfortable grip, and shoots very much like the 17's and 19's and at the same distances. There is no hindrance there. And, with a simple mag change, its basically a shorter barreled, full sized gun, with a full sized grip.

Everyone has their likes and dislikes, and for whatever reason, and that's fine, as long as you can make it work. If you dont have experience with the other different models, you really only know what you do have, and wont see the advantages, and disadvantages, of the others. Having experience with all of them gives you some perspective.

As I said before, I really dont see the point to the 19's and 45's. Not a real fan of the single stacks either, but thats simply what Ive come to understand, by having, carrying, and shooting most of them a good bit. My perspective anyway. :)
 
chaim said:
The G19 really does sound like their "just right" gun. You are far from the first person who said they shoot the G19 better than the G17. Then, a lot of people say it is almost as easy to conceal as the G26 (as easy if you do IWB and put a pinky extension or extended mag on the G26), and without the pinky extension on the G26 you have a dangling pinky, or you can have your whole hand on the grip of the G19.

This is really why I ignored my annoyance at the 3 10 round mags I'm going to get since I live in MD and went with the G19. It was too much the "just right" gun to go with something else. I'll just have to spend extra money ($50/mag plus gas) to go to PA, DE or VA to pick up normal capacity mags for it (maybe DE since they don't have sales tax).
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Reliable Glock mags are the best priced mags! OEM should cost under $30, but Magpul’s are under $20. I have found the Magpuls to be completely reliable too. I won’t say that for the others…though some folks would. I don’t have enough rounds through ETS to have a good opinion.
 
chaim said:
I hate the idea of the standard mags going to waste. That is the reason why the 43X returned to the list (and I don't 100% rule out the G26 returning to the list). If I lived in a state where I could buy 15 round mags here at home, I would easily buy the G19 at this point.
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Those would be called "range mags", and should be painted as such. ;)
 
chaim said:
So, I went with the Glock 19MOS.
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Nice choice. I recently shopped for my first Glock. Is the Glock 19 rail as long as the Glock 17 rail? I wanted to fit a Streamlight TLR-7A onto my handgun and had concerns that it wouldn't fit on the Glock 19.
 
JTQ said:
Excellent point. For reference, here are the best selling holsters https://www.amazon.com/Best-Sellers-Gun-Holsters/zgbs/sporting-goods/13280251

;)
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LOL! I hear ya. And 2021 was largely a “buy what’s available” kinda year. I do know a LOT of first time gun buyers brought back their guns, including many Glocks.

But there is no argument that the Glock 19 is a very very popular Glock, and the gun most other gun manufacturers target when they come out with their “Glock Killer”…. CZP10, Walther PPQ, Walter PDP, M&P compact, HK XP9, XD Compact…all relatively same size as the G19
 
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