Hugger-4641
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If that difference in case weight made that big a difference, you must have been at or over max charge or seated way too deep. My bet is you were over max by a bit.
Would you shoot home reloaded ammo from a private party?
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Archie
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As a general rule, NO.
As others have mentioned, some long time and trusted friends, yes.
As others have mentioned, some long time and trusted friends, yes.
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Would you shoot home reloaded ammo from a private party?
Almost never. I have shot other people’s hand loads in their guns, like at a match, but not someone else’s loads in my guns.
Years ago I had a friend that got me into reloading. His loads, yes, I would trust them. He’s the guy that taught me how important it is to be meticulous and methodical when reloading.
I had other friends and guys I shot in matches with that after watching how they loaded ammo I would never use their ammo.
Almost never. I have shot other people’s hand loads in their guns, like at a match, but not someone else’s loads in my guns.
Years ago I had a friend that got me into reloading. His loads, yes, I would trust them. He’s the guy that taught me how important it is to be meticulous and methodical when reloading.
I had other friends and guys I shot in matches with that after watching how they loaded ammo I would never use their ammo.
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You do know the smart answer.
"My dilemma is that I don't know when his dementia was beginning to measurably impact his ability to manage such a potentially delicate task"
You know what to do, what the safe thing to do is.
So what is the issue....simple the work volume. Pulling all that is a HUGE amount of effort.
I don't have your issue, and I first thought well load up a round with the powder and bullet he used, then weigh them all. Sounds good....unless he got confused around the powder, your outcome will be very different if he loaded some of these with pistol powder......so we are back at the I know what is smart, but I don't want to do all that work for "nothing" The thing is it is not for nothing. I tend to like my body parts attached, and for some reason my wife likes my face as it is.
I think I would pull them all down over the cold winter months dump the powder into the mystery powder tub and reload them. And while they are in your care but HUGE RED X with DO NOT USE on the boxes just incase you get hit by a train or run over by a bus, the next guy down the road will think.....I know @Sniper66 he really knew what he was doing, I will shoot his reloads, I shot them before.
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I also go by the rule @Sniper66 stated:
Never shoot another's reloads.
I will also not reload for anyone but myself. I will let others shoot my reloads out of MY guns, most of my reloads are set to this specific rifle. In the cases where I have more then one of the same kind of rifle, the last 4 of the SN is on the box. So those loads go with that rifle. Some are loaded very hot and others very soft. I have 38spl rounds that are VERY hot, and those say Marlin lever only. I don't want to shoot those out of an old revolver.
Story time:
About a month ago someone at the wifes work asked her if she knows anything about reloading, well a little but my husband does it quite a bit. Well I have a 7.7 Arisaka, does you husband load for that. Yea he does. If I get the powder brass, all the stuff would he load up some for me? I will ask him.
Hard no. You never reload for another person, I will however loan him the dies and he can do it himself. I quoted her the rule as well. She told him he follows rule #1 on reloading, so sorry he will not do it.
Never shoot another's reloads.
I will also not reload for anyone but myself. I will let others shoot my reloads out of MY guns, most of my reloads are set to this specific rifle. In the cases where I have more then one of the same kind of rifle, the last 4 of the SN is on the box. So those loads go with that rifle. Some are loaded very hot and others very soft. I have 38spl rounds that are VERY hot, and those say Marlin lever only. I don't want to shoot those out of an old revolver.
Story time:
About a month ago someone at the wifes work asked her if she knows anything about reloading, well a little but my husband does it quite a bit. Well I have a 7.7 Arisaka, does you husband load for that. Yea he does. If I get the powder brass, all the stuff would he load up some for me? I will ask him.
Hard no. You never reload for another person, I will however loan him the dies and he can do it himself. I quoted her the rule as well. She told him he follows rule #1 on reloading, so sorry he will not do it.
lightman
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Nope!!! There are only a chosen few whose reloads I will shoot. No exceptions!
Appalachiannative
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If I personally witnessed the reloading of the ammo and could there for be certain it was done properly. I once purchased ammo at the flea market that I was not told were reloads. It was some 9x19 I fired a whole box and nothing bad happened. I gave another box to my old man who got it all out and inspected it with various magnification lenses and found multiple rounds with improperly seated projectiles. I think he still has those rounds as a reminder. I never bought any more ammo from anyone other than a licensed dealer or retail store ever again.
The load in question is only used in my bolt gun and never showed any sign of being too hot.11 grains is over 10% of case weight from one brand to another. .223 is a small case and I think that amount weight difference is something to consider.
I load for four friends, two in .264 Win mag, one 6PPC. one 6mmBR the only way I agreed to load for them is to work up a load using their rifle, and never had a problem.
The one friend with the 6mmBR had some rounds his father loaded had given them to me, I did pull the heads on those and dump the powder.
Hugger-4641
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I have the same requirement. I load for several family members and a few friends and will not load for them unless I have thier gun to work up with. I also label every box with the load data and specific gun to be used in.
illinoisburt
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Too many people like to load over book max (and books vary a lot as to what max may be). This applies to all reloading -- metallic and shotshell. I have never personally witnessed a kaboom though I have seen rifles locked tight and shotguns popped open with cracked butt stocks so it's been close.
No! I'm in the middle of pulling a couple hundred 45 Colt reloads from an estate. Not labelled, no dats, new brass, quality bullets. Weighed first five charges and the powder, which looks like H110, varied from "book max" to plus four grains. If I had a Freedom 454 I still wouldn't shoot them. I know there are 45 fanboys who would but I'm not one. Ill stick to my proven warm, but not hot, deer load.
I've pulled 44 mags from another guy that were five over.
Stopped one competitor shooting a M19 Smith in our pin shoots who admitted he'd added a couple grains over max. Gave him his entry back and banned him when he got irate. Range officer rules.
I shoot mine. Only.
Seen too many guys at the trap club having bloopers shooting someone else's stuff. "Yeah, but they're two bucks cheaper!"
I've pulled 44 mags from another guy that were five over.
Stopped one competitor shooting a M19 Smith in our pin shoots who admitted he'd added a couple grains over max. Gave him his entry back and banned him when he got irate. Range officer rules.
I shoot mine. Only.
Seen too many guys at the trap club having bloopers shooting someone else's stuff. "Yeah, but they're two bucks cheaper!"
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I bought some tools from a guy on CL, he also gave me one of those nut and bolt commerical sheet metal organizers when I showed interest in it, he was cleaning up his property. These were in one of the cubbys for nuts and bolts. Would you shoot them? I wouldn't. They are 45-110 Quigley rounds. I don't have a 45-110 rifle but have several 45-70's, I've had a Quigley Rifle on my mind for decades. The Sharps are way more than i want to spend and knock offs are expensive as well.
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Not knowingly.
doubleh
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It can happen. I don't know if I even have a reputation but I am kind of anal about reloading. I have never had a squib or double load but I check everything every time I reload and don't pay attention to anything but what I am doing. Some trust me as son and daughter, son-in-law, grandkids, and great grandkids are eager to shoot grandpa's reloads------or any of his ammo they can get their hands on. Buncha bums, but I love 'em all.
Zendude
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Commercial reloads, yes. Otherwise, no.
armedwalleye
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I think it depends on the reloader, my knowledge of him, past experiences with him, and the caliber. Open a few. A .308 with cylindrical powder is pretty tough to overload, I think, but a double charge in a pistol is easily done snd hard to notice unless you’re looking.
Jim Watson
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The old NRA rule of thumb based on military vs commercial .30-06 and IMR powders was that 11 grains of case weight was proportional to 1 grain of powder.
I wouldn't buy a rifle to shoot 8 rounds.
Even if I had a .45 x 2 7/8" I would pull one to see what it was loaded with.
Black, shoot them. Nitro, nope, there are too many stories about "My .45-XX is modern and I can make it shoot like a .458 Magnum".
I confess to loading ammo for my IDPA Protege, same "recipe" I use. Keeps her costs down and encourages her to shoot.
But I have one friend whose ammo I would not use or allow anybody else to use, he has had too many bad rounds.
Then there are the other two guys - originally three, but one since deceased - who are meticulous loaders that I would count on like myself... or better.
I am wary of commercial reloads even if they call them "remanufactured" which is sense free advertising. I know a couple of good brands of a bygone day, a couple that are mediocre, and have seen some that were scary.
Scout21
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I probably wouldn't, but I'd be more apt to fire those rounds than someone's .223 reloads. I'd assume that if someone were to reload for 45-110 they would be a pretty serious loader. I doubt that that is a round someone would jump right into loading with little experience.
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Absolutely NO! Two instances I witnessed, not "I heard". S&W .357 Magnum blew up with a "Friends" handload. Gun was wrecked, luckily my Friend only suffered minor cut's and soreness. AR-15, an old SP-1 worth quite a bit. One shot, very loud, and the bolt was locked shut. After fooling with it with a rod and mallet we managed to extract the case which was obviously suffering from an over pressure load. Bought at a Gun Show, the rest were buried. Lucky the old Colt's were well made as the rifle suffered no damage. It just isn't worth it.
.308 Norma
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I'd had absolutely zero experience loading Black Powder Cartridge Rifle (BPCR) ammo when I "jumped into" loading for my .45-110 Sharps in the late '90s. Of course, I'd been loading smokeless powder cartridges for better than 20 years by then, so I guess that's not exactly what you meant.
Just kidding around, Scout21. I know what you meant, and I agree. I love handloading and loading for BPCRs was/is something new for me to learn. I've always taken handloading seriously though.
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I remember years ago. A guy at work offers ammo that he had reloaded for sale. Mainly deer hunting calibers. 3-5 $ above store shelf prices.
I never bought any. Mainly because I had never had any issues with off the self ammo and why would I want to pay more.
It seemed to me that week after week someone would come to work complaining that "using the reloaded ammo" had fail to fire, under powered, or even squids during several weekends of deer hunting.
That's when I decided to never use reloads. I'm a do it yourself kind of guy. I have thought of reloading myself. But, After hearing others experiences of using reloads? No. I'll stick to off the shelf.
Now, Hold on. That's " MY" decision based on what others had said about that guy's reloads. Not others. But I still stay away from reloads.
Off the shelf Always worked for me. So. No need for reloads.
I never bought any. Mainly because I had never had any issues with off the self ammo and why would I want to pay more.
It seemed to me that week after week someone would come to work complaining that "using the reloaded ammo" had fail to fire, under powered, or even squids during several weekends of deer hunting.
That's when I decided to never use reloads. I'm a do it yourself kind of guy. I have thought of reloading myself. But, After hearing others experiences of using reloads? No. I'll stick to off the shelf.
Now, Hold on. That's " MY" decision based on what others had said about that guy's reloads. Not others. But I still stay away from reloads.
Off the shelf Always worked for me. So. No need for reloads.
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No where did I say I would buy a rifle for 8 rounds, what I did say is that I have wanted a Quigley for decades. Long before I got these 8 rounds. I also said I would in no way
shoot these.
I imagine I could reload 45-110 for a reasonable cost as I already reload 45-70 now.
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