ATF loves it when you send them notification that a firearm configuration has changed, but its not required by any federal law or ATF regulation.
So you have done an SBR registration?
ATF loves it when you send them notification that a firearm configuration has changed, but its not required by any federal law or ATF regulation.
Probably would not be an issue until you try to sell your SBR.
Around a hundred Form 4's for SBR'sSo you have done an SBR registration?
Because ATF doesn't regulate accessories.I know this, the person I was responding to was suggesting that the ATF should’ve just required braces to be registered, to avoid all this that is going on. That is why I went down that train of thought as to why the ATF didn’t choose that course of action.
Because ATF doesn't regulate accessories.
It takes a qualifying firearm PLUS a qualifying brace (accessory) to make an SBR.just like the lightning links and FA trigger packs make a machine gun in the ATF thought process a brace makes an SBR.
Only 07FFL/SOT's "manufacture", and the manufacturing of an SBR requires NFA registration on a Form 2 and subsequent transfers require either a Form 3 or Form 4.
How many folks do not know about the new brace law? I would have not known about it. If i wasn't on this forum. My brother who has a braced AR pistol . Did not know about it.
Well, don't you think thats because YOU filled out the Form 1?All of my Form 1 SBR’s have my trust listed as the manufacturer in 4. a.
Description of Firearm and Markings.
(1) Item 4a. If you are modifying an existing firearm, enter the name and location of the original manufacturer. If you are creating the firearm, enter the Maker’s name, city and State.
(2) Item 4b. The types of NFA firearms are listed in the definitions;
(3) Item 4c. Specify one caliber or gauge. If there is another designation, indicate the designation in item 4h.
(4) Item 4d. Show the model designation (if known).
(5) Item 4e and 4f. Specify one barrel length and overall length in items 4e and 4f as applicable. Note: if the firearm has a folding or collapsible stock, the overall measurement is to be made with the stock extended.
(6) Item 4g. Do not alter or modify the serial number of an existing firearm . Enter the existing serial number or, if a new firearm, one you create.
(7) Markings: The maker is required to mark the firearm with the Maker’s name, City and State as shown in item 3b. All markings are to be in compliance with 27 CFR §§ 478.92 and 479.102. Do not alter or modify the serial number of an existing firearm. Enter the existing serial number, or if a new firearm, one you create. The Maker may not duplicate any serial number placed by the Maker on any other firearm. See 27 CFR § 479.102.
Being you didn't manufacture, make or create the original firearm, you are still required to put that information in 4a.The one I am looking at right now doesn’t even have the name of the original manufacturer on it at all, I did use the original serial number though.
And this is why ATF has started asking for photos....people don't read the instructions. The examiners approve Form 1's based on the supposed ability of applicants correctly following the instructions. With Form 1's the examiner doesn't have a previous F2, F3 or F4 to compare to.I thought it was odd because 4. a. reads “Name and Location of Original Manufacturer of firearm.” That said, I just fill them out how the examiner approves them.
That's true, but when you certify under penalty of law that your answers are true, accurate and complete......they darn well better be.That said, the form 1 is an “Application to make and register a firearm”, even if it’s really just assembling parts someone else made, after it comes back approved.
https://www.atf.gov/firearms/docs/f...-and-register-firearm-atf-form-53201/download and follow the instructions.Is there a good video or website that goes through the process of preparing a SBR to be registered on form 1 and actually filling out form 1?
The rule that was recently published applies only to specific firearms possessed on the 1/31/2023.How is the no-cost option invoked? Is there a special form 1 for the no-cost form 1 SBR? Box to check?
Apply early, apply often, repeat.Any advice for first time filers?
Thanks for your response. Any hints about which part/page of the 98 page document covers the no-cost option for those of us that possessed our qualifying firearms with brace before 1/31/2023?The rule that was recently published applies only to specific firearms possessed on the 1/31/2023.
https://www.atf.gov/rules-and-regulations/factoring-criteria-firearms-attached-stabilizing-braces...
The best hint is reading what's on that webpage.Thanks for your response. Any hints about which part/page of the 98 page document covers the no-cost option for those of us that possessed our qualifying firearms with brace before 1/31/2023?
No such term in the linked document. As for reading and interpreting the document, I've decided to copy what well informed members of of this forum are doing. Thanks.The best hint is reading what's on that webpage.
Scroll down to the "How do I complete an eForm 1 application?"
Really?No such term in the linked document. As for reading and interpreting the document, I've decided to copy what well informed members of of this forum are doing. Thanks.