California's Handgun List

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I moved from CA to TX Sep 09'. That safe handgun list was an absolute JOKE!

Example... Say S&W has the .500 and offers it in Blued AND in Stainless. The gun is IDENTICAL in every which way... the only difference is the finish.

IF they only submitted the stainless version for testing, and if it does pass, ONLY the stainless model is put on the "Safe" list... the blued model is not allowed to be sold new in CA to anyone other then people with exempt status like Law Enforcement.

Also, if it's not on the list... it can't be shipped even within the state. Once in the state, said firearm can be sold Face to Face (at an FFL of course where you still have to do the $35 DROS and 10 day wait) but you can do that.

Its a total joke and overall pain in the butt. So many people buy a gun off of the internet because they see it on the list but it was a different finish and they buy it, ship it and then the FFL won't release it to them because its not on the safe list.

God bless Texas :) LOL
 
As usual, another srupid gun law from liberal/socialist/bankrupt California. Here I sit in what should be the greatest place on planet earth and it blows. Thankfully we have such a large population that most manufacturers will submit their handguns for the epensive testing process to get it on the approved list. If we only had a couple million people I doubt you would even be able to buy a handgun. One good reaon to love a single action as they are exempt from the stupid law. It all started becus of Davis, Jennings, et al and the "Saturday Night Specials" - the liberals thought they could do away with cheap guns through "testing" for safety. I glad Jimanez (SP?) stayed around.
 
Here's a direct link to the removed list. If a manufacturer stops making a certain configuration and gets tired of paying protection money, er, rather the fee, even though the gun that has passed safety testing it becomes "unsafe" and can no longer be sold. You can imagine what this does to a dealer's stock.

http://ag.ca.gov/firearms/forms/pdf/removed.pdf
 
Most of the guns on the removed link also show up on the newly added guns list. The listing needs to be renewed every two years. They are shown as being removed but also added with a new "expiration" date.

It costs something like 200 bucks to renew a listing. Once it's on the list, it doesn't come off unless the maker wants it to.
 
READ the dates on that list. It goes back to 2001. This is a list of pistols that manufacturers have typically replaced with newer models.

For example Nighthawk currently has 22 M1911 pistol versions for sale in CA right now.

Ruger has 104 models and variations for sale in CA.

Now I hate these stupid laws that CA imposes, but CA still accounts for a significant % of total gun sales in the USA. (If I can find the stats, CA used to purchase ~1/3 of all firearms sold in the USA.)

If anybody wants to see what's actually available for sale, they should look here:
http://certguns.doj.ca.gov/
 
Those CA laws, like almost all other American "gun control" laws, have their basis in fear and race hatred. The CA legislator is totally scared sh**less of the Mexicans and the blacks and is frantically trying every idea, no matter how insane, to keep guns out of "the wrong (not rich white) hands".

Jim
 
If you don't like the CA DOJ approved list for handgun sales, then thank the Single Action Shooters Society (SASS).

They supported passage of it, once they got an exemption for single-action revolvers.
 
not allowed to be sold new in CA to anyone other then people with exempt status like Law Enforcement.
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So Law Enforcement is permitted to use "unsafe" guns against the citizenry?! That seems immoral. It's a lawsuit just waiting to happen.

Imagine you or a loved one having an LEO point an "unsafe" gun at you?
 
Those CA laws, like almost all other American "gun control" laws, have their basis in fear and race hatred. The CA legislator is totally scared sh**less of the Mexicans and the blacks and is frantically trying every idea, no matter how insane, to keep guns out of "the wrong (not rich white) hands".
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Unfortunately, one of my greatest heroes, Ronald Reagan, was responsible for the downslide in CA gun rights when he was the Governor. During the Civil Rights protests, Black Panthers marched in the streets legally open-carrying their firearms. So did American Indians and other "disenfranchised" people.

This scared the crap out of a lot of people and there was a rush to start controlling firearms and banning legal carry.

Stupid how firearms were once carried by the poor and downtrodden for protection, taken-away by the Right, and now gun-control is a rallying point for the Left.
 
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Well, not only did RR undermine our gun rights but he also closed all the state mental hospitals and threw hundreds of thousands of pathetic people onto the streets to fend for themselves in what was often a very hostile environment. Reagan has a couple of nasty black marks on his record as far as I'm concerned.
 
So Law Enforcement is permitted to use "unsafe" guns against the citizenry?! That seems immoral. It's a lawsuit just waiting to happen.

Imagine you or a loved one having an LEO point an "unsafe" gun at you?
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Lame huh....

Now don't take this as gospel but i believe that other professions such as EMT's, Paramedics and Probation officers are also Exempt from the safe handgun roster.
 
And our home prices are still unsteady too! :eek:

Another thread of blaming, griping and swearing off of CA. And of course a revelation about that new "safe gun list" that is almost a decade old now... DC has it now too. Now THAT Is at least less than 1 year old news! :D

Justin
 
Buck Snort said:
Well, not only did RR undermine our gun rights but he also closed all the state mental hospitals and threw hundreds of thousands of pathetic people onto the streets to fend for themselves in what was often a very hostile environment. Reagan has a couple of nasty black marks on his record as far as I'm concerned.
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Very true. He essentially started the homeless epidemic that now infests most major cities.
 
rha600 said:
you couldn't pay me to live in that state.
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That's easy to say. A friend of mine was looking to move out of CA but the jobs he was offered were payiing about 60% of what he made here. Even after figuring in the cost of living and lower state taxes it's still a significant difference.

It's not so bad here. The real bummer of the handgun roster is new gun models are required to have a magazine disconnect. Otherwise it's really not that big of an issue for most people. And of course, there are (legal) games you can play to get the gun you need into the state. Pro tip: if you're moving here, buy a bunch of desirable non-roster handguns first. They're fine to bring with you and you can make a killing selling them here.

Now "assault" rifles and magazine capacities, those are the things to bitch and moan about here.
 
I am among the thousands that moved OUT of the Commi state of Kaliforinication because of their politics and especially, their idiotic insanely stupid gun laws. I suspect millions have. This I feel is part of their reason for being bankrupt, well this and the fact they pay for all the illegals there as well, but I won't delve into that either.
 
Every time a thread like this is posted the members start preaching to the quire. There is really only 1 real solution to this whole mess, VOTE OUT all the "Representatives" who will keep your God Given Rights from you and VOTE in those who will restore those rights. It's really as simple as that!
 
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