Is the 6.8 dead?

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Looking through my latest Cabela's Shooting catalog I found just one manufacturer of 6.8 Rem ammo (S&B).
Brass only available from Rem and only one single bullet listed (115gr. FMJ) also from Remington.

Compared to 6.5 mm bullets the choice for reloaders are pretty small.

Also, did or did not any Military unit adobt the 6.8 SPC as new duty round, so are there some surplus ammo supplies to be expected sometime?
 
Well, I do not know if this means anything, but Midwayusa lists 6 brands for 6.8 Ammo
# Cor-Bon
# DoubleTap
# Hornady
# Remington
# Sellier & Bellot
# Silver State Armory (never heard of these guys.)
 
It's not dead by any means. But it's not a military cartridge to any extent. The US military tried it out a little but has not adopted it nor are they likely to adopt it. I believe some small Arab nation (Jordan? Bahrain?) adopted 6.8SPC for use by a limited number of its elite units. It doesn't look very likely that it will see widespread military adoption, and that means it isn't likely to be as inexpensive as calibers that can be found in surplus.

Really, though, if you like the 6.8 platform, in most cases you can get a 5.56 to practice with and keep the 6.8 SPC for hunting or "serious" use, therefore moderating your ammo costs somewhat.
 
Not sure that Cabela's lists all the items they offer in the printed catalog. I've ordered Sierra Pro-Hunter bullets and at least two different types of Hornady bullets from them in the past. (for some reason I can't get to their website right now to see if they still offer).

Low variety in components along with limited and pricey ammo availability isn't helping the caliber grow as fast as it might. I don't think its anywhere near dead though. At least I hope not - I like it.
 
As to the military, I think it is... But to hunters and sports shooters, its only in its infancy. If you are really interested in the 6.8SPC, check out their forum. (You'll have to google it, I can't think of the correct website off the top of my head.)

Silver state armory is the ammo maker that pioneered the advancement of the 6.8 round past what remington put into it. They have been in its upbringing since the beggining and offer supperbe ammo to shooters. The 6.8 is growing. More and more bullet companys are coming out with light weigth .270 caliber projectiles made spicificaly for use with the 6.8x43 cartridge. There's also a growing group of reloaders that are getting awsome performance from the cartrige with 130-150 grain .270 bullets at subsonice velocitys. Its not dead by any means.
 
Silver State Armory (never heard of these guys.)
They are a pretty well known manufacturer of 6.8SPC ammo and their products are well made.

As has been stated, 6.8SPC is a boutique round and (like most all other alternative chamberings for AR15 pattern rifles) is likely to remain so. But it's got a good following and performs very well for an intermediate chambering from muzzle distance to 300 yards. It's fairly popular with folk who want a round with better terminal effects than 5.56NATO can reliably provide, both for social and hunting purposes.

There are probably more manufacturers of AR15 rifles in 6.8SPC than in any other alternative chambering, and several non-AR pattern rifles can also be had in 6.8SPC.
 
I've never seen anyone shooting one, and I'm out there shooting 3 weekends a month. I've seen people talk about buying one though...

Maybe my local weekday shooters are tearin' it up with their 6.8s? :scrutiny:
 
I've got one, an RRA A4 Mid-Length LAR-6, I love it. I'd not own an AR otherwise if not in this caliber.
 
It certainly isn't dead, but it is what it claims...a "special purpose cartridge" and most folks haven't the need or the desire to pick it up. It doesn't help that it uses a lesser available caliber, so bullet options are limited for those that choose to handload. In all likelihood someone will have commercial success by improving it by adding a 6.5/7mm bullet and thus save it from a drawn out demise. In short, I think it will be around for some time, but I don't believe our grandchildren will be shooting it.

:)
 
The cartridge is the #1 alternative for the AR15. It's the most widely available conversion, with the most barrels and uppers available.

What's driving the growth are hunters, not range shooters. A lot of states still proscribe against the 5.56, and a lot of hunters don't feel 5.56 is adequate for medium sized game. For the hunter who wants to use a 7 1/2 pound carbine with 16" barrel that's extremely durable, can use a red dot sight, and is easily maintained and modified, the AR is a great choice. Add in the millions of service men and women who were trained on it, shot it repeatedly in their enlistment, and want to continue to use one, it gives them a caliber that has 50% more power, and more effective range.

6.8 SPC isn't a Walmart caliber for range sprayers, it's a internet savvy AR15 shooters prime choice when he wants something more than 5.56. With SSA loads in Barnes bullets, 2,800 FPS from a 16" barrel is getting commonplace, and 3000 repeatedly chronographed from handloads. For a shooter who wants downrange performance, the 6.8 is getting it - especially if the target isn't paper.

Having been on the market less than 5 years and being the lead alternate caliber for the last two, it has to be questioned why someone would ask if the caliber is dead, when it's very much active. Unless an agenda is at foot.
 
6.8 SPC is not dead, but the hogs on the end get that way real quick :)


I see the round is becoming more popular, in the last year, for turning the AR into a medium game rifle.

I'm a reloader, so commercial ammo availability is not high on my list of worries, but I'm still seeing ammo on the shelves at Cabalas.
 
Whether the DOD takes it is irrelevant. They have a boatload of other considerations, one major one being NATO has to go along, too. That makes it a major political/military thumbwrestle to even open up the subject of a caliber change that will affect dozens of governments.

Frankly, it's a little bit pollyanna to think ANY caliber would ever have a chance in that regard.

Add in there are other developing technologies out there, like the LSAT round, which has no brass case at all. It's well into the testing phase, up to and including Battalion level exercises, and SOCOM has signed on as a partner in testing. These guys don't just sit around on a range filled with bench guns. They like using things in actual combat - and have used the 6.8 in A-stan, among others, already. If the promise of half the weight per round, plus the benefit of a twice the ammo per magazine holds out, who even cares about another brass cased cartridge? It's 1860's technology, right? Time to move on.

Suggesting that it takes military approval for a caliber to sell well is ludicrous in the face of the hundreds of others that never were and remain commercial successes. America's #1 deer rifle of the 20th century was the lever action, and it made it's success from the .30-30 - a caliber never accepted by the military. The 6.8 SPC fills the same ballistic role in hunting. It offers good power in a carbine length rifle. It does it the modern way, with a smaller bullet at much higher speeds, from a semi auto rifle that is leaps and bounds ahead of a cranky old black powder age lever gun.

I'm glad it never had a chance to get adopted, the bad mouthing of the 5.56 alone tells me I the 6.8 would have been treated the same - because it wasn't the .308. Fortunately, I don't hold to the One Caliber to Rule Them All, and can make choices that suit what I want to do.

The ACR was just put out for LEO purchase, and you get the choice - 5.56 or 6.8. No, it's far from dead yet.
 
I believe some law enforcement agencies have adopted it for their tactical teams.

I doubt the US military will ever abandon the 5.56 as its primary round. The increase in cost would be too much, especially considering what the real purpose of an infantry rifle is.
 
Most AR manufacturers are making 6.8 rifles. Ruger just unveiled their new one too. Within the past year Barnes also developed the 95 gr TTSX for the 6.8. I don't think it is dead, only just finding its groove in the civilian market instead of hoping to become the next DOD pill.

Will all the money, time, and bragging about the Army's new 5.56 green bullet, do we really think any caliber stands a chance in the military for the next decade?
 
6.8mm = .277". There are LOTS of bullets in this caliber available to the handloader.

mbogo
Not really. When constrained to an AR magwell the spc may shoot the same diameter bullet as 270 but it does not shoot or share the same bullets.

Much in the same way 30/30 and 308/30-06 share the same diameter but not the same projectiles.
 
I was in my local gun shop recently when someone asked the owner if he had a 6.8 AR. Matter of factly, the owner said that he would order one if the customer desired, but he does not stock any 6.8 guns because they just don't move. Is it dead? - not by any means. Is it a specialty caliber? - yes.
 
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