What is intended use of PGO 14" 12 gauge?

I would use it to open doors. Even then I'd add a stock.

Proper usage:
1.) Unload weapon
2.) Grip on end of barrel
3.) Use PG as a club

Seriously it is a highly specialized gun I would expect to be used for door busting and about nothing else.

Target market is likely police departments ... used for opening doors.

The primary use is that a lot of people think it looks tough when 109 pound actresses use one to blow bad guys away with blanks in the movies and on TV. In real life it's a bear to TRY to control after the first shot with a hand that feels like it just got hit by a baseball bat. A 4" Smith Model 29 with full house 44 mag rounds is child's play by comparison.

What is intended use of PGO 14" 12 gauge?

Ummm... stirring up ire on the shotgun forum?

lpl

What is the targeted market for a 14" PGO 12 gauge.

How do you hold this when firing?

What is the range at which you can count on hitting the bad guy?

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A) Mall Ninjas.
B) Sideways with one hand, or mounted to the rail on your AR.
C) Over 9000 yards.

OK, now for a serious answer:
A) Cops, as they don't need the $200 tax stamps for it.
B) Not in front of your face (check YouTube for people getting smacked in the noggin).
C) No clue, but not all that far. It's not a duck or turkey gun...

bushmaster1313 said:

Why PGO 14" for door opening?

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Because in general that is what PGO SBSs are designed for.

A longer 14" gun might also have some limited use as a riot gun or for less than lethal ammo use. But mostly it would be for breaking open locked doors.


As for how its held and fired, its like this:

I agree it seems to have no real purpose...since it is NFA...why not go to 12" for door breaching? If for CQB...it needs a stock.

I've seen PGO shotguns controlled decently. I'd say they could be handy for home defense, where narrow hallways and doorways would make a traditional shotgun a liability. In these situations, any shot is likely to be at pretty much point-blank range. You're only going to need one shot, and you'd have to be blind to miss.

Actually it's not a $200 tax stamp. If it was manufactured without a stock, it is legally an AOW and thus transferrable with only a $5 tax stamp.

It's made for killing things at close range. Mostly hands that are wrapped around that poorly designed pistol grip.

just takes some practice

Use? Why, duck hunting, of course!

Personally, I've got NO use for pistol grips on shotguns. Pistol grips are for pistols.

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Now that you got all the snarky answers from the "I don't know anything about P/G shotguns, but I'd never have one." crowd, let me give you a serious answer.

Mine is an 18 1/2" barrel, the minimum without a AOW stamp. So, a 14" barrel needs an additional tax and paperwork.

They are best fired by holding firmly in your right hand just under the rib cage, your left hand holding the forestock so the gun rests at a 45 deg angle across your body.
I put a Knoxx grip on mine, that has a spring in the P/G, and I could shoot it all day from this position.

It's virtue is it's small size. Easy to store, easy to maneuver.
It is NOT for skeet, ducks, moose, trap, three gun, and other games.

It is for home defense. Range? 10' - 30'. Buckshot.
Take it to an outdoor range and practice.
Oh, it's fun too.

If you want an AOW shotgun, get the 10" barrel Serbu shorty.

It might just be me, but I think this would make a pretty great camping/truck gun. It could fit in a backpack or behind the seat of a pickup and easily deployed. Yes, it is more difficult to shoot with a pistol grip only versus a full stock, but with practice, it can be done.

Even with the pistol grip, in my experience it's still easier to hit things than with a handgun.

Even with the pistol grip, in my experience it's still easier to hit things than with a handgun.

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Wow. That goes very contrary to my experiences where sighted fire with a handgun is much faster, more accurate, and versatile than anything I was able to accomplish with a PGO shotgun.

What is intended use of PGO 14" 12 gauge?

Ummm... stirring up ire on the shotgun forum?

lpl

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I'm gonna have fun with that when I get my Remington 870 "Witness Protection" legalized and built.

why not go to 12"

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Because that's how long the pump action is.

Sam, I'll agree that a handgun is faster and more versatile. But only on accuracy, I can hit stuff more easily with a shotgun, pistol grip or full stock. Again, only my experience.

why not go to 12"
Because that's how long the pump action is.

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Why not go shorter??

http://www.serbu.com/top/superShorty.php

jon86 said:

It might just be me, but I think this would make a pretty great camping/truck gun. It could fit in a backpack or behind the seat of a pickup and easily deployed.

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Maybe if you added a folding stock.

Virginian said:

The primary use is that a lot of people think it looks tough when 109 pound actresses use one to blow bad guys away with blanks in the movies and on TV. In real life it's a bear to TRY to control after the first shot with a hand that feels like it just got hit by a baseball bat. A 4" Smith Model 29 with full house 44 mag rounds is child's play by comparison.

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Video link. That sorts of proves you wrong, no?