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Looks like you did a very good job on the stippling...it almost looks as if it were performed at the factory. Should give a great deal more purchase on that grip too.
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Alot has been going through my head lately on fashioning a night hunting hog gun out of the VZ58 platform. I ended up selling my D-Technik tactical sporter (10 round single stack) and switching over to the Century VZ2008. My application in the field requires using a flash hider to save the night vision monocular from damage. The reason I switched over was to save shipping fees and cost to have the muzzle cap cutoff and barrel treated to accomodate the flash hider. In a perfect world I would have kept the D-Technik but I don't have the funds to do that, not with gas prices and corn prices and lease fees and......
So first and foremost here is a photo of my hunt from Sunday night into Monday morning. I shot this hog with a .270 rifle at about 200 yards, it was a spine shot so the VZ2008 was pressed into service to dispatch the animal. Boar weighed 170 lbs.
The Aimpoint Pro will get sighted in at the range tomorrow and after that I will have a gunsmith locally tap and drill the receiver so that I can fit the gun with the rear optic mount. I plan to place the night vision monocular on the back optic rail and have the Aimpoint on the front handguard about 17 inches ahead. I did some rude and crude testing in the field last night and it appears that the Aimpoint Pro is going to deliver as promised...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hrhl15AhSfw
So the next hunt should be a stalk and hunt with the VZ2008 and I hope to take out multiple hogs on that hunt. At the time I shot the above hog he was 1 of 20 in the field eating that are planted to support the cattle on the land.
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Alot has been going through my head lately on fashioning a night hunting hog gun out of the VZ58 platform. I ended up selling my D-Technik tactical sporter (10 round single stack) and switching over to the Century VZ2008. My application in the field requires using a flash hider to save the night vision monocular from damage. The reason I switched over was to save shipping fees and cost to have the muzzle cap cutoff and barrel treated to accomodate the flash hider. In a perfect world I would have kept the D-Technik but I don't have the funds to do that, not with gas prices and corn prices and lease fees and......
So first and foremost here is a photo of my hunt from Sunday night into Monday morning. I shot this hog with a .270 rifle at about 200 yards, it was a spine shot so the VZ2008 was pressed into service to dispatch the animal. Boar weighed 170 lbs.
The Aimpoint Pro will get sighted in at the range tomorrow and after that I will have a gunsmith locally tap and drill the receiver so that I can fit the gun with the rear optic mount. I plan to place the night vision monocular on the back optic rail and have the Aimpoint on the front handguard about 17 inches ahead. I did some rude and crude testing in the field last night and it appears that the Aimpoint Pro is going to deliver as promised...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hrhl15AhSfw
So the next hunt should be a stalk and hunt with the VZ2008 and I hope to take out multiple hogs on that hunt. At the time I shot the above hog he was 1 of 20 in the field eating that are planted to support the cattle on the land.
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BB, that's a big ole hog!
Make sure and give us an update with regards to that optics mount...is it a side rail system?
Make sure and give us an update with regards to that optics mount...is it a side rail system?
It is the Czech Small Arms mount that Czechpoint-USA recently got in stock. Same style as the, now classic, video at the tactical rifle range on youtube.
Look for the next update next month, I wish I could stalk/shoot/and film all at once but unfortunately I would need three extra arms to manage that and from a safety standpoint it doesn't work. If I get ahold of a spare night vision mono and a camera man they could film it from behind my shooting position - any takers !?!?!?
Look for the next update next month, I wish I could stalk/shoot/and film all at once but unfortunately I would need three extra arms to manage that and from a safety standpoint it doesn't work. If I get ahold of a spare night vision mono and a camera man they could film it from behind my shooting position - any takers !?!?!?
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That's what I figured (seeing as how you had to D&T for it).
On a different but related note, anyone interested in purchasing the railed upper handguard only can now do so at Neit Arms for the cost of about $95.00USD. I think this is the route I will end up taking for an optics mount (and it lets me keep most of the sawdust furniture that, for some crazy reason, I happen to be fond of).
On a different but related note, anyone interested in purchasing the railed upper handguard only can now do so at Neit Arms for the cost of about $95.00USD. I think this is the route I will end up taking for an optics mount (and it lets me keep most of the sawdust furniture that, for some crazy reason, I happen to be fond of).
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^ The VZ.58 has a "nickname"? The scythe?
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Actualy it got two nicknames - scythe and paddle (Sa vz.58V and vz.58P)- depending on the stock used.
And the soldiers using them were divided between "harvestmen" and "canoeists" depending on what vz. were they issued.
And the soldiers using them were divided between "harvestmen" and "canoeists" depending on what vz. were they issued
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Hehehe...I guess that makes my folder (V-type stock) a scythe? From now on I'm going to laugh and point at the folks with a paddle.
I got the idea, or should I say the motivation to paint a couple of my magazines.
These are your standard mil surplus magazines in good functioning condition.
Hand sanded with 320 grit, then 220 grit and finished with 2000 grit.
Taped up mag lips, hung them with wire hangers.
2 - 3 coats of the BBQ black paint, let dry 12 - 15 hours (it is 100 degrees in TX right now and I have a fan on them non-stop).
2 - 3 coats of the glossy clear enamel, let dry for 6 - 8 hours.
Viola!
Now I have 8 more to do.... I think I will put these two through the paces over the summer to determine durability.
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Mag on right sanded with 220, mag on left sanded with 320:
Prepped and hung:
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Bonus photo - I got my siderail fixed (long story) so here it is outside and ready for the next hunting trip!
These are your standard mil surplus magazines in good functioning condition.
Hand sanded with 320 grit, then 220 grit and finished with 2000 grit.
Taped up mag lips, hung them with wire hangers.
2 - 3 coats of the BBQ black paint, let dry 12 - 15 hours (it is 100 degrees in TX right now and I have a fan on them non-stop).
2 - 3 coats of the glossy clear enamel, let dry for 6 - 8 hours.
Viola!
Now I have 8 more to do.... I think I will put these two through the paces over the summer to determine durability.
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BEFORE:
Mag on right sanded with 220, mag on left sanded with 320:
Prepped and hung:
AFTER:
Bonus photo - I got my siderail fixed (long story) so here it is outside and ready for the next hunting trip!
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It's a little late now, but the best paint that I have used (on most any metal surface) has been ceramic low gloss black engine paint from NAPA (their gloss may be just as good, as may other retailer's similar products, but I haven't tried either).
Thinking about magazines, I am probably going to order a few parts here in the near future in order to modify them for 20rnd capacity. If anyone is interested I may be willing to make a few extra (depending upon difficulty and how they work out)...either way I'll let you guys know how it turns out.
Thinking about magazines, I am probably going to order a few parts here in the near future in order to modify them for 20rnd capacity. If anyone is interested I may be willing to make a few extra (depending upon difficulty and how they work out)...either way I'll let you guys know how it turns out.
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maverick i would be interested in a couple 20rd mags.
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I'll see what I can do if all goes well. Additionally, i'll post a tutorial on how to do it once I get it down...that way others can follow my lead and perform the work themselves
(or more likely learn from my mistakes).
(or more likely learn from my mistakes
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I am seriously contemplating having my VZ2008 hydro dipped, what patterns do you think would look best?
To save on cost I believe I am going to leave the polymer parts black (as-is) as well as the scope and pistol grip.
So I am thinking about having all the metals done, including the optic mount.
If anyone is gifted with photoshop I would be most appreciative of see what some of these patterns would look like....
http://www.filmpatterns.com/
http://texascamo.tk/pattern.html
No I am not affiliated with any of the above sites, this is the websites the guy told me to look through for selecting a pattern.
Thanks lets hear it, good and bad - I can take it all in
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I am seriously contemplating having my VZ2008 hydro dipped, what patterns do you think would look best?
To save on cost I believe I am going to leave the polymer parts black (as-is) as well as the scope and pistol grip.
So I am thinking about having all the metals done, including the optic mount.
If anyone is gifted with photoshop I would be most appreciative of see what some of these patterns would look like....
http://www.filmpatterns.com/
http://texascamo.tk/pattern.html
No I am not affiliated with any of the above sites, this is the websites the guy told me to look through for selecting a pattern.
Thanks lets hear it, good and bad - I can take it all in
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Take this with a cup of salt, because I'm not too fond of camo patterns and the like, but if I were to do any tactical style rifle it would, without question, be a arctic camo pattern (which isn't shown in the above links and I'm no help with Photoshop). IMO it just looks right, particularly on rifles from the Eastern Bloc.
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I think that would look pretty good. I can't make any promises, and haven't the skill necessary to do it myself, but I will talk to a friend of mine and see if he can apply that pattern (and perhaps a couple others if you let me know which ones) for you.
A little background on my experience in shooting the VZ platform.
I bought a D-technik 10 round tactical sporter back in Dec 2010 and promptly moved into a FAB Defense kit to suit my personal desire. I am a civilian, never enlisted in the military and have no formal shooting training. I am an avid hunter and as such I predominately shot bolt action rifles up until 2010.
Since December I have tried 4 different optics, ALL mounted on the FAB Defense upper. Accuracy was respectable but not anything worth getting really excited about. For me the most difficult task is getting a good clear sight picture at 100 yards and beyond. So I have decided to use this in hunting at a range of 125 yards or less and sticking with my bolt action rifles for longer distance shooting.
So the most recent upgrade to my new Century VZ2008 rifle, which by the way I sold the D-technik due to a lack of funds to modify the muzzle brake, was the Czechpoint side rail and CSA optic mount.
Here are a couple of videos from the weekend:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsmRa5mC64U
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zTOn_gwYRs
I can tell you without any doubt whatsoever that my accuracy has greatly improved moving over to a non-polymer rail. I couldn't be happier with how the rifle shot this weekend.
NOW I AM EXCITED !
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I bought a D-technik 10 round tactical sporter back in Dec 2010 and promptly moved into a FAB Defense kit to suit my personal desire. I am a civilian, never enlisted in the military and have no formal shooting training. I am an avid hunter and as such I predominately shot bolt action rifles up until 2010.
Since December I have tried 4 different optics, ALL mounted on the FAB Defense upper. Accuracy was respectable but not anything worth getting really excited about. For me the most difficult task is getting a good clear sight picture at 100 yards and beyond. So I have decided to use this in hunting at a range of 125 yards or less and sticking with my bolt action rifles for longer distance shooting.
So the most recent upgrade to my new Century VZ2008 rifle, which by the way I sold the D-technik due to a lack of funds to modify the muzzle brake, was the Czechpoint side rail and CSA optic mount.
Here are a couple of videos from the weekend:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsmRa5mC64U
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zTOn_gwYRs
I can tell you without any doubt whatsoever that my accuracy has greatly improved moving over to a non-polymer rail. I couldn't be happier with how the rifle shot this weekend.
NOW I AM EXCITED !
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i like these rifles, but since they're no longer imported, where are you going to get spare parts?
Bohemus
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Who told you so?i like these rifles, but since they're no longer imported, where are you going to get spare parts?
The Century version of the gun (VZ2008) is all US Part with the exception of some internals (springs,mags). So that solves any importation challenges.i like these rifles, but since they're no longer imported, where are you going to get spare parts?
With the World Wide Web being what it is I am sure that it would be a problem getting replacement parts (internals, handguards, etc) from that point on.
So thats worse case scenario.
I take it you read they are no longer imported from CZ-USA? I.e. they are discontinued or no longer the "importer" for the weapon...
The reality is that this gun is just getting started here in the USA and we "The Club" are the people who compromise "The Movement", so join us
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Czechpoint definitely sells parts, and I am pretty sure that they are still importing the CZ/D-Technik version. As others have mentioned CAI still imports their variant, the VZ-2008, which is very similar.
Yep, the carbine is just starting to take hold, but I have no doubt that it is going to be around for a long time, and as folks start to become more familiar with it become increasingly more popular. With that comes greater availability of parts and more aftermarket parts & accessories.
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i thought i read somewhere that CZ was no longer selling them . i had wanted to get one until i read that. if spare parts won't be an issue, i'll still consider getting one. i do like the design.
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