CZ 75 questions

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Im seriously considering getting one in the next 4-7 weeks.Wanted to find out a few things first.

1.How much are mags?are there cheaper after market mags and how much?

2.If i were to go with a 40 S&W ,do they sell a 9mm conversion barrel?Is it difficult to convert and or even worth it?

3.Ive read many good reviews,what are some con points to owning one?

4.Im already sold on its looks.How rugged and reliable is it compared to the poly wonders?

5.Hows the customer service?I read about mikepains bad experience with his p07 Duty and wanted to know if CZ generally takes care of there customers.

6.What parts are still plastic in a 75B and can i get them replaced with metal parts?

Any opinions from those that own one would be greatly appreciated,thanks.
 
1.How much are mags?are there cheaper after market mags and how much?

Actual CZ mags are a bit steep. Around $45. Mec-gar makes aftermarket ones for $25. Mec-gar stuff is absolutely superb and usually as good or better than factory. They actually make the factory mags for many handguns.

2.If i were to go with a 40 S&W ,do they sell a 9mm conversion barrel?Is it difficult to convert and or even worth it?

Unknown. I will say that for all other pistols that have this option for (Glock and S&W M&P I know for sure), its an aftermarket accessory, not factory.

3.Ive read many good reviews,what are some con points to owning one?

They're DA/SA (unless you get an SA model). That may be a turnoff for some. First trigger pull is heavy, but then it transitions to lighter for every following shot. Of course unless its a decocker model you can carry them cocked and locked too so that all shots are single-action.

4.Im already sold on its looks.How rugged and reliable is it compared to the poly wonders?

Its about as rugged and reliable as you can get, but the same is true for most modern polymer guns too. You can feel safe that its not any LESS reliable though.

5.Hows the customer service?I read about mikepains bad experience with his p07 Duty and wanted to know if CZ generally takes care of there customers.

Never contacted CZ on my 75 when I had it, nor on any of my other guns they make, so no comment there.

6.What parts are still plastic in a 75B and can i get them replaced with metal parts?

Assuming you don't get one of the polymer framed models, the only thing plastic on them is the grips. If that bothers you, you can certainly switch them to wood ones. Well - actually on second thought the magazine following is probably plastic, but that's the case on virtually every handgun these days.
 
Plus 1 to the above, plus you can get the single action only model if you want or a decocker instead of a manual safety.

Cons? My trigger was a bit gritty when I first got it. I didn't wait for it to break in, I did a DIY trigger job with the instructions on CZ forum. Now it's great.

The CZ custom shop sells complete uppers which IIRC can convert .40 to 9mm.

I just got the Kadet .22 conversion yesterday and took it out after work today, shoots great! Didn't get a chance for a true accuracy test, but at 30 yards I was hitting was I was aiming at.

Of course I haven't needed service yet, but I plan to be my own gunsmith with this gun. I've already detail stripped it to do the trigger job, and parts are readily available and inexpensive.

It shoots straight and it's reliable, plus it had those strangely attractive eastern bloc looks. I'd like to find one with the red star on the slide for that real commie look.
 
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Post 2 is spot on.

I can only add:

C Z customer service is great, and Ghost industries run by CZ shooter Angus Hobbel is fantastic
 
You can buy CZ factory mags (made by Mec-Gar) from CDNN for considerably less than CZ-USA charges for them. And, as noted, Mec-Gar after-market mags are great.

I didn't know that you could buy complete uppers from CZ Custom Shop. If so, that's good, as Bar-Sto doesn't make conversion barrels for CZ currently, and CZ itself would not sell uppers in the past.

Generally, except for polymer-framed models, they have no plastic parts. I prefer the soft-rubber factory grips to wood.

Cons to CZ? About the only real complaint is that the Double Action trigger (if you start from hammer down) is LONG, and some folk just don't have long-enough fingers. You can, on all models, start from the half-cock notch, which shortens the trigger a bit.

The newest PCR/model P-02, {seen on the CZUB site, but not yet on the CZ-USA site) may soon be available in the US, has the Omega trigger systems, which allows the user to switch from safety to decocker, as needed. And the trigger is apparently much better. (I've not been able to handle a Cz with the new trigger, yet.)
 
For mags, also keep an eye on CZ's website, sometimes they have them on sale. I grabbed a 3 pack on sale for about $27 a mag.

Agree with what has been said, the CZ is built like a tank and is very accurate (9mm and .22 kit, personal experience).

For the trigger, they do smooth out considerably with use. The DA pull will still be long and the play will be there, but the grittiness will reduce considerably. I have heard that the trigger job from CZ Custom Shop is nothing short of amazing.

One downside, at least in my opinion, is that with the short slide and stiff spring racking the slide is more difficult than other guns. But that might not matter at all too you. I had to dig to find something bad to say about the gun.;)
 
Can't add much to what has already been stated. I have been shooting cZs for over 25 years and they are still my first choice. A couple of my 75Bs have a plastic recoil spring guide; never had a problem with it. As for cons, cZs are addictive!
 
Re: plastic guide rods.

Forgot about that. Some of the older ones (pre-Bs) have metal guide rods.

Guide rods are a relatively "low-stress" part, and whether its plastic or metal is generally irrelevant. I've never had problems with a plastic one, either.

For several years, the "craze" was to install metal, full-length guide rods in the compact models. And in the steel-framed models, that was OK. But, with the alloy-framed compact models, plastic is preferred, as the metal guide rods tend to damage the alloy frame. (CZ will not cover frame damage due to using a metal guide rod in a compact alloy-framed CZ, under warranty. CZ has said they have begun to notice some frame damage from metal guide rods in those models.)

Note: When it comes time to replace the recoil spring in a full-size 75B, go to Wolff Springs gunsprings.com and rather than order the CZ springs (which are REALLY springs for the EAA Witness, which has a larger diameter guide rod than the CZ), order the Browning Hi-Power recoil springs. Wolff now has them in the proper weights, and they fit the CZ guide rods just like a factory guide rod, and work perfectly.
 
My basic opinion is you can't go wrong with a CZ. The basic original CZ 75B is an excellent sidearm for every use. I am fond of this model, too, the poly framed CZ SP-01 Phantom, shown with a little light reading, also available from CZ-USA..

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As for the P-02, last thing I heard was, "not yet"...bummer.
 
The kadet 22 adapter is amazing. It is the most accurate 22 pistol I own, and I have several. Can't think of another auto I would trust more.
 
I love my CZ phantom. Best pistol I own and that I've shot. Its very accurate and reliable. Loves any ammo, from brown bear to +p+ winchester HPs.

I think the all steel version would be a great platform for the .40 caliber. The weight would help soak up recoil. However, one thing to keep in mind, holsters are not that easy to find as other guns. Especially for less popular models (such as the phantom).

That said they are worth the aftermarket hassel.


I believe Jeff Cooper called them the best 9mm service pistol ever made.
 
Ah, did you say you need a holster?

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High Noon Down Under with straps, on a High Noon Rock Steady gunbelt.

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Here's the whole set, including High Noon Double Take dual mag carrier. They make leather for darn near every CZ pistol made, including our wonderful Phantoms. :)

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Ah, did you say you need a holster?

Found plenty for it. =) Thanks though.

Took a lot of digging though (back before highnoon made holsters for the phantom). Still haven't got around to the highnoon holsters...well their custom ones that is.


One thing new for CZ's I am interested in trying is the dual recoil spring (forgot who made it) and how it handles +p+ loads.

Although the CZ's don't really need it.
=)
 
You can buy CZ factory mags (made by Mec-Gar) from CDNN for considerably less than CZ-USA charges for them. And, as noted, Mec-Gar after-market mags are great.

I didn't know that you could buy complete uppers from CZ Custom Shop. If so, that's good, as Bar-Sto doesn't make conversion barrels for CZ currently, and CZ itself would not sell uppers in the past.

Generally, except for polymer-framed models, they have no plastic parts. I prefer the soft-rubber factory grips to wood.

Cons to CZ? About the only real complaint is that the Double Action trigger (if you start from hammer down) is LONG, and some folk just don't have long-enough fingers. You can, on all models, start from the half-cock notch, which shortens the trigger a bit.

The newest PCR/model P-02, {seen on the CZUB site, but not yet on the CZ-USA site) may soon be available in the US, has the Omega trigger systems, which allows the user to switch from safety to decocker, as needed. And the trigger is apparently much better. (I've not been able to handle a Cz with the new trigger, yet.)
Walt, Angus has a CZ-75 compact with the Omega trigger and switchable from safety to decocker on his sight, CZ Custom...
 
I love my CZ 75B with the Omega trigger. If still offered, it was supposed to be a trigger upgrade from the factory. Mine is probably 3-4 years old / bought 3-4 years ago.

Most accurate (Factory) pistol I have ever shot. Great gun, like shooting it.
I have the 9mm. I bought cz factory mags, kind of wish I asked..... It shoots all makes of 9mm ammo I have thrown at it...
 
Let me start by admitting that I started the CZ club here so I may possibly be somewhat biased :rolleyes:

1.How much are mags?are there cheaper after market mags and how much?
Price has been covered in other posts. +1 on using Mec-Gar mags.
DO NOT BUY PRO-MAGS FOR CZ PISTOLS, THEY WILL ONLY MAKE YOU CRY!

2.If i were to go with a 40 S&W ,do they sell a 9mm conversion barrel?Is it difficult to convert and or even worth it?
I haven't seen a conversion barrel for a while. I've never found them to be worth it. Pick a caliber you want and stick with it.

3.Ive read many good reviews,what are some con points to owning one?
-Since the slide rides inside the frame, the grip area on the slide is somewhat narrow.
-The all-steel versions are on the heavy side
-They are addictive and you tend to wind up with more than one :D

4.Im already sold on its looks.How rugged and reliable is it compared to the poly wonders?
I own several, they have been amazing with one exception. Even the best companies (and I do like CZ-USA and their products) can produce a lemon but in the interests of full disclosure, (Link to review I wrote on another site)

5.Hows the customer service?I read about mikepains bad experience with his p07 Duty and wanted to know if CZ generally takes care of there customers.
I've had to contact them a sum total of twice in 10 years and they were first rate, possibly because I was very clear about the issues and what my expectations were to resolve them to my satisfaction. In one case they replaced (for free) a spring I lost due to my own clumsiness and sent me spares as well, in the other case they were very interested in the details of the gun I mentioned in the review above and had a quality control guy spend about an hour on the phone with me.

6.What parts are still plastic in a 75B and can i get them replaced with metal parts?
Some spring guides (depends on model), mag base plate and mag followers, and grips. So far I've had no issues with plastic parts though I replace the plastic grips with rubber just for personal preference.

Any opinions from those that own one would be greatly appreciated,thanks.
I own several and consider them amongst my best pistols. As I've mentioned before I have a CZ75B in .40S&W that I still consider to be the most accurate out-of-the-box pistol I've ever owned!
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Oh, but don't just leave one laying out in the hot sun, the finish and the metal will soak up a LOT of heat and you'll get a nasty surprise when you go to pick it up! :D
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Walt, Angus has a CZ-75 compact with the Omega trigger and switchable from safety to decocker on his sight, CZ Custom...

If it's a Compact (capital "C") it has a steel frame, and is on the heavy side. The P-02 has the alloy frame, and is noticeably lighter.

I had a nice CZ Compact, with an extended slide release and beautiful custom grips. I found it too heavy, and eventually traded it away. (Wish I could find another one of those extended slide releases...)

The other gun in the photo is a full-size Sphinx DAO which is also very heavy. It's also heavy. While the Sphinx trigger was marvelously light and smooth, it was LONGER than I cared for, and I sold it. I still have a Sphinx Compact, but it'll probably go, one of these days -- as it's become a safe queen.

I have other guns I shoot more frequently (including a great CZ-85 Combat and a custom AT-84s).

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3.Ive read many good reviews,what are some con points to owning one?

A: No decocker on standard model (they do make the 75BD with a decocker but no manual safety. Be VERY careful lowering the hammer on a live round. Once it's down, no worries, Model 75B has a firing pin block.

I own the 75B and LOVE it, no problems ever in 10+ years.
 
The one Angus has is a psuedo P-02, you could say. His shop does incredible work, and I would recommend czcustom.com for any CZ work you want done, ever.
 
I have a CZ 75B stainless - here's a picture

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Wonderful gun.

I also have a CZ 85 Combat

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Also an outstanding gun.

I bought Mec-Gar after market mags & they work well.

Very rugged.

Pretty too IMHO.

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If you spend a little extra, and buy your gun from the CZ Custom Shop, the trigger will be excellent. (Some gun shops get guns directly from the Custom Shop. One guy on a local forum bought a Custom Shop gun out of the showcase at a local gun shop.)

Otherwise, the triggers are generally a little grungy, but the smooth out with use (generally several hundred rounds.) That would be true, but much less noticeably so, with the SA guns. You don't have to clean up the double-action trigger, so there's not nearly as much to feel or do.

I'd just go the Custom Shop route, or find a local gunsmith willing to do a trigger job.

(My thinking: I can spend $75 or so for a trigger job, or spend a lot more than that shooting a new gun with a grungy trigger for 400-500 roundss... Me? I don't like shooting a gun with a mediocre trigger...)
 
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