Taurus: your verdict on Taurus auto-loaders.

What is your view on Taurus auto-loaders?

  • Excellent: It has my full confidence.

    Votes: 114 25.7%

  • Good: Not quite there yet, but above average.

    Votes: 77 17.4%

  • Average: Nothing special at all.

    Votes: 116 26.2%

  • Below Average: They are substandard.

    Votes: 83 18.7%

  • Poor: Pathetic, and I will never rely on.

    Votes: 53 12.0%
  • Total voters
    443
  • Poll closed .
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weregunner said:
The old saw about "my shop does or doesn't" holds no water.
I've been to many gunshops and gun shows in this area. Taurus and other brands were sold in great numbers & available as well.

No way to verify that.

Nor does anecdotal evidence that cannot be verified.
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Well geez, man, about 99% of information on an Internet gun message board cannot be verified. I don't think it's fair to bust that fact out just when someone disagrees. All the reports of happy, satisfied Taurus owners are every bit as unverifiable. But I have no reason to lie. I have no gun company stock. I don't benefit if Taurus goes out of business. I just think the things are crap and I'll share and defend that that when a thread OP asks my opinion.

And I never said that they aren't available. They are locally available here too. I'm just saying a LGS owner I talked to a few months back quit carrying them, and in my eyes that reflects on quality, or lack thereof. That's all.
 
Its about Economics. Some gunshops can afford to send back items if their sales are huge and they want sales rather then quality sales. Some shops carry them because they fit the bill for lot of people and people go in asking for one.

Like LAWSCHOLAR, I don't hold stock in any mnf of guns that I would want Taurus to go out of business. I don't feel personal and sentimental about a brand. To me that's just silly. I place huge stock in performance of a gun, rather.

I gather lot of people just defend the brand(s) they own. Unless you are a sales rep, I suggest that welet folks decide on their experiences instead.

I am surprised that even after so many awards listed in post above, taurus is still not even a consideration for LEA any where. Not even in the developing countries who economize.
 
You've obviously been not reading the memos (links).

I agree that people should make up their own minds.

If they buy Taurus,fine. If not ,fine. Just look and inspect the gun closely with the checklist that is in the links. Can't go wrong in doing that.

But have some actual facts to back things up.Sheeesh! :what:

Time to move on to real endeavors.
 
Sometimes it doesnt matter. We sold a brand new taurus that came w/ test fire casings. about two weeks later the customer brought the gun back saying he coulddnt even load it. Upon inspection it had no chamber cut in it EVER. not even a roughed chamber or a short chamber. Where did the test fire casings come from?
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Thats a quote from another forum discussing spent casings. (from factory new guns)

I believe him.
 
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I KNOW Taurus has had their share of woes - it's one reason I've held off getting one of their 1911's, even though I love the feel of them in my hand.

That said, I've only owned ONE Taurus auto (and several of their revolvers) over the years - a PT100 stainless (the rare duotone, which I wish I had BACK!!!) - I bought new ca. 1992. Ran great on everything I fed it, but had to sell it about a year & a half later, for grad school expenses. :(

I've transitioned to all 1911's in .45 since then, and my opinion on Taurus is about 20 years out-of-date, in that regards, but there you have it. And all the little J-frame .38 & .357's I've owned as backup/summer casual carry pieces, have all worked fine.
 
Had a Taurus .38 special long ago that had problems. A shame, because it was a great looking & feeling gun.

Considering the effort that must have gone into making it such A fine looking weapon, it seems odd that the extra steps needed to assure decent function would have been neglected. I would be more specific as to the particular problems I had, but memory fails.

As to whether or no I would purchase again, I would chance it for the right gun- If all the financial ducks were in thier respective rows- I do love the looks of some of thier offerings.
 
Weregunner, may I ask what is your fascination with Taurus?

Enlighten me why Taurus could be a better choice then Glock, CZ, Sig, HK or Colt just to name a few.
 
weregunner said:
You've obviously been not reading the memos (links).

I agree that people should make up their own minds.

If they buy Taurus,fine. If not ,fine. Just look and inspect the gun closely with the checklist that is in the links. Can't go wrong in doing that.

But have some actual facts to back things up.Sheeesh! :what:

Time to move on to real endeavors.
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I read the links. I don't pay much heed to gun magazines and only moderately to industry awards. Those are largely driven by sales and ad revenue. To me, the highest endorsement of a gun brand is if it's adopted by police or military forces. Outside of Brazil, Taurus really isn't. Even the lowly $300 Smith Sigma and Ruger P95 have been issued and served reliably.

I did have facts. :) I personally experienced 3 Tauri and they all failed.
 
I had four that failed.

That's enough information to evaluvate the mills that printed the awards.
 
Mlitaries and police departments issue guns based on price and politics.
Is that really such a great reason for a citizen to buy a particular brand?
 
Jaymo said:
Mlitaries and police departments issue guns based on price and politics.
Is that really such a great reason for a citizen to buy a particular brand?
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Price and politics are part of an overall rubric including quality, officer trust, officer comfort with manual of arns, etc.

Some options, including non-domestics, which have been chosen by departments and militaries over Taurus despite even bring cheaper to buy than many Tauri:

Smith Sigma
Ruger P95
Springfield XD

To start.

If its totally the rubric that military and police carry "budget" weapons, should i ignore the hundreds of departments in the US that issue brands like Sig, HK, Kimber, etc ?
 
Price and politics are not as paramount as some people make it believe to be. Yes they play role, but after the criteria is met and choice is among the top option.

I am a politician myself, and I an say this for certain that when case is well prepared there is very little you can do.
 
ExTank
Failed= malfunctioned repeatedly, thus failed to meet my standards of a handgun should be.

I really have a hunch that slowly by slowly this poll is being cooked by certain folks. Who? I cant tell. The Moderators here will be able to tell by checking recent registrations to this forum who are either from same IPs or have not posted, just registered.

I hereby request the Mods to look in to this.
 
I am a politician myself, and I an say this for certain that when case is well prepared there is very little you can do.
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That's just about the ONLY thing you've said that I can agree upon, sir.

Taurus doesn't manufacture guns in the United States. Virtually every LEO, and military contract let in the past one hundred years has required that the guns, ay the very least, be assembled in the United States. The assembly requirement is for LEOs, not the military, who require that the guns be built here.

Perhaps that might "affect" the choices?

I really have a hunch that slowly by slowly this poll is being cooked by certain folks.
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I don't believe that guests can post, much less enter a poll. I also see where you may only vote once, after that, the current results show up.

Accordingly, it would appear that you just cannot understand why the majority of people don't have the same experience as you.

I mentioned that I own in excess of 14 Taurus handguns. I have related MY experience with them, over the past 30 years. To listen to the various posters here, most of whom have bought multiple Taurus handguns, more, it appears, as they entered the fray later in the thread, it would be literally impossible for me to not have had SEVERAL malfunctioning Taurus guns. I'm not relaying anyone else opinions, stories, or tales of woe.

I, for one, cannot believe that anyone who has such terrible experiences with a product, would continue to buy them. <edit>

FYI, Taurus handguns have been issue items in:

Brazil
Israel
Singapore
Hong Kong
The UAE

Some options, including non-domestics, which have been chosen by departments and militaries over Taurus despite even bring cheaper to buy than many Tauri:

Smith Sigma
Ruger P95
Springfield XD
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NONE of these are non-domestics. All are either produced, or assembled, in the United States. Then again, the P95 was chosen for the Afghan Police, as was the Sigma. The XD, or XDM is NOT "even cheaper to buy than many Tauri". You're not even TRYING to be factual here.

Failed= malfunctioned repeatedly, thus failed to meet my standards of a handgun should be.
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That, sir, is an opinion of what a handgun should be. Did you let the gun break in? You would if you owned a Kahr.

Following that criteria, most of the military M16 rifles used in Basic would be relegated to the same category.
 
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JR47 said:
That's just about the ONLY thing you've said that I can agree upon, sir.

Taurus doesn't manufacture guns in the United States. Virtually every LEO, and military contract let in the past one hundred years has required that the guns, ay the very least, be assembled in the United States. The assembly requirement is for LEOs, not the military, who require that the guns be built here.

Perhaps that might "affect" the choices?



I don't believe that guests can post, much less enter a poll. I also see where you may only vote once, after that, the current results show up.

Accordingly, it would appear that you just cannot understand why the majority of people don't have the same experience as you.

I mentioned that I own in excess of 14 Taurus handguns. I have related MY experience with them, over the past 30 years. To listen to the various posters here, most of whom have bought multiple Taurus handguns, more, it appears, as they entered the fray later in the thread, it would be literally impossible for me to not have had SEVERAL malfunctioning Taurus guns. I'm not relaying anyone else opinions, stories, or tales of woe.

I, for one, cannot believe that anyone who has such terrible experiences with a product, would continue to buy them. <edit>

FYI, Taurus handguns have been issue items in:

Brazil
Israel
Singapore
Hong Kong
The UAE



NONE of these are non-domestics. All are either produced, or assembled, in the United States. Then again, the P95 was chosen for the Afghan Police, as was the Sigma. The XD, or XDM is NOT "even cheaper to buy than many Tauri". You're not even TRYING to be factual here.



That, sir, is an opinion of what a handgun should be. Did you let the gun break in? You would if you owned a Kahr.

Following that criteria, most of the military M16 rifles used in Basic would be relegated to the same category.
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Bud's Gun Shop:

Blue Steel Taurus PT92 -$458
Springfield XD - $430

One of SEVERAL Taurus service-oriented models more expensive than the XD.

Kindly don't call me a liar. I do my research before I post.
 
Taurus doesn't manufacture guns in the United States.
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If you are going to complain about others not being factual perhaps you should verify if this statement is true or not.
 
Spend your money on Taurus if you'd like. I have no problem with that. I don't trust 'em, so I won't.

It's not just guns. If I bought 3 Chevys and all broke down, I wouldn't buy any more Chevys. If I bought 3 Husky power drills and all 3 broke in a week, no more Husky.

I don't reward companies for taking a crap on me, in any industry. I don't shrug and chalk it up to bad luck, especially when it's 3 instances each a year apart.

In my personal experience, and judging by the disproportionate horror stories I've seen from Taurus owners on the various forums I read, Taurus seems to be an inferior brand. If your experiences and impressions lead you to a different conclusion and a different way to spend your money, well, that's capitalism!
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This +1000
 
I am not going to spend money on stuff that fails as well. Well said.

As for breaking in, I don't buy that statement. A gun that malfunctions repeatedly in the initial stages is not going to be laying around to be used a paper weight. Breaking in can be a valid argument for the guns that are used in competition. However when I am buying a gun for SD, I want it to work right out of the box or its gone. I take SD weapons seriously.

I would like to know the soruce of your information of Taurus being issue weapon on the countries you listed, as well issue item for what? Frankly, out of the countries you listed only Israel would be my concern since they test their gear well before putting it in use. So I would like to know which Israeli force is using it, sir.
 
LawScholar said:
Bud's Gun Shop:

Blue Steel Taurus PT92 -$458
Springfield XD - $430

One of SEVERAL Taurus service-oriented models more expensive than the XD.

Kindly don't call me a liar. I do my research before I post.
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Fine. I won't call you a liar. Other words may come to mind, but liar isn't one of them.

You're comparing a polymer framed handgun to an all-metal handgun. Polymer's typically come in cheaper than all-metals.

If you're going to compare things, try apples-apples.
 
Miked7762 said:
If you are going to complain about others not being factual perhaps you should verify if this statement is true or not.
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Is there a Taurus firearms manufacturing plant in the U.S.A.?

I couldn't locate one searching online. Do you have any info in that regard?
 
ExTank said:
Fine. I won't call you a liar. Other words may come to mind, but liar isn't one of them.

You're comparing a polymer framed handgun to an all-metal handgun. Polymer's typically come in cheaper than all-metals.

If you're going to compare things, try apples-apples.
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You said the XD wasn't cheaper and accused me of "not even trying" to be factual. You were wrong. Try and change the issue any way you like.
 
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