Which had more revolutionary impact: Glock or Colt 1911?

Which had more revolutionary impact on handguns: Glock or Colt 1911?

  • Glock

    Votes: 56 16.3%

  • Colt 1911

    Votes: 244 71.1%

  • They were equally influential.

    Votes: 43 12.5%
  • Total voters
    343
  • Poll closed .
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I didn't vote or look at the results, that was not the point for me. Nearly every thread like this suffers from the bias of its respondents. There have been intelligent responses but I doubt those members were the only ones allowed to vote.
 
Let me say this: I bought my first Glock several months ago, a Gen 4 G35. My first impression is that it is very poorly and cheaply made. I am sure it runs ok, I am just of the school where I judge quality by an objects feel. I have never owned a 1911 but recently ordered one, I have never picked up a 1911 that appeared to be a POS. This is my opinion as to what I feel.

As for this poll there is only one answer, John Moses Browning was a genius of firearm design, The 1911 while not the only autoloading pistol of the period was and is the single most important pistol of the 20th century, to say nothing of the fact that it entered service 70 years before Glocks came about. The simple fact that today 1911's are more popular than ever with some 20 companies making them as fast as we can buy them. While the Glock has obviously had a huge effect on the market I believe it has more to do with marketing than the actual design.
 
Let me say this: I bought my first Glock several months ago, a Gen 4 G35. My first impression is that it is very poorly and cheaply made. I am sure it runs ok, I am just of the school where I judge quality by an objects feel. I have never owned a 1911 but recently ordered one, I have never picked up a 1911 that appeared to be a POS. This is my opinion as to what I feel.

As for this poll there is only one answer, John Moses Browning was a genius of firearm design, The 1911 while not the only autoloading pistol of the period was and is the single most important pistol of the 20th century, to say nothing of the fact that it entered service 70 years before Glocks came about. The simple fact that today 1911's are more popular than ever with some 20 companies making them as fast as we can buy them. While the Glock has obviously had a huge effect on the market I believe it has more to do with marketing than the actual design.
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I am of the school who judges quality by whether it actually works or not. My lifetime experience is that more Glocks work than 1911s. None of which has anything to do with this thread. It is quite possible that the car that made the most impact on the automobile industry was the model T. Nothing revolutionary about the car, the car was pretty vanilla, it was the process of making it that changed everything. Glocks may be the most revolutionary manufacturing process to hit firearms since Colt did interchangeable parts. My guess is 50 years from now the Glock way not the Glock firearm is going to own the business.
 
Glocks may be the most revolutionary manufacturing process to hit firearms since Colt did interchangeable parts. My guess is 50 years from now the Glock way not the Glock firearm is going to own the business.
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What did they do exactly? Maybe your talking about Glock night at the Gold Cup? :cool:
 
allaroundhunter said:
The results speak for themselves. I do enjoy my Glock. Was it more revolutionary than my M&P? Absolutely. The XD? Yep...

The 1911? Not a chance in h***.


.....you certainly like to start some controversial threads don't you, Godfather?
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+2. Albeit the Glock is considered the standard for reliability and ergonomics, you will not see me post a pic of one that I own, cuz I don't and won't. I'm a "shiny things guy", a history guy. These two are apples and oranges in every way minus caliber. The 1911, although not immediately popular, was aiding in war winning offensive a defensive fighting decades before Gaston thought to make a pistol out of Glad Ware.
 
JohnBT said:
I suppose if John Browning hadn't invented the tilting barrel design used for the 1911 then Gaston Glock would have come up with it on his own 70 years later. Or maybe he wouldn't have. But he didn't need to, did he?
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.... where to start. Do you even know how a1911 works?
 
How many non clones coppied the 1911 design? I can only think of the TT33. Now how many non clones have coppied the glock design? The high-power was the JMB design that changed the world. Not the 1911. And what if luger had won the contract? Then the 1911 would be just as important as the pocket hammerless.
 
JMB didn't just design a 1911 in 1911 and colt made it. he had been designing automatic pistols for 11 years prior to the 1911, so there was 11 years of refinement before the 1911. the luger pre-dates the 1911 but but the designs are different, comparing apples to oranges. you don't see the luger influence in todays pistols.
 
In 1911 compared to its competition the colt 1911 was compact and reliable.The fact that there are so many companies selling every one they make 100 years later says something!
 
We brag about it being a military sidearm but a lot forget that it existed as part of a "kit" which usually included a rifle.

In terms of weapons, especially handguns being used as the SOLE deterrent/offensive weapon system there are much better options with more reliability, capacity and accuracy.

In these terms, I believe the Glock to be more revolutionary.

Some here are interchanging revolutionary and legendary.
 
What we are talking about is two different periods of time with different manufacturing technologies. It’s like comparing apples and oranges.

The Glock is as close to plug and play as you can get with interchangeability of parts. One of the problems with the 1911 style pistol is in the number of manufactures producing their particular rendition.

While I own both 1911 pistols and Glock pistols If I were to travel to some remote place and be responsible for upkeep/service/repairs I’d opt for the Glock.
 
oso said:
JMB didn't just design a 1911 in 1911 and colt made it. he had been designing automatic pistols for 11 years prior to the 1911, so there was 11 years of refinement before the 1911. the luger pre-dates the 1911 but but the designs are different, comparing apples to oranges. you don't see the luger influence in todays pistols.
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I was pointing out that a luger in .45ACP competed against the 1911 for service pistol contract. If luger had won then today the 1911 would be a relic of the past like his previous designs.
 
1911 came about during the transition from wheelguns to semi autos for horse soldiers, the G-Perfection came about during the transition from wheelguns to semi autos for some police agencies... so they both got that going for them.

Revolutionary Impact at time of public acceptance? I'd say Glock.
Fewest number of parts to make something go BANG reliably (a sort of revolutionary impact unto itself)? I'd say Glock.
 
In purely revolutionary terms they both have their place. The 1911 transitioned the US military into the semi auto pistol era and Glock for the pistol what Henry Ford did to the Auto.
Both pretty revolutionary in their own right.
 
yeah if you're a WWII Vet or the kid of a WWII Vet 1911

If you're a kid a gamer and movie buff Glock.
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I'm 19 years old, I like to watch movies and sometimes play video games when I have the spare time. I would take a 1911 over a Glock any day. I don't like the grip of the Glock and never will. Don't be so narrow minded.
 
Both , either or , even if it's apples and oranges . Polymer was going to find it's way into the arms industry sooner or later but the Glock popularized it .

There were self loading designs around the turn of the (previous) century but only two designs have stood the test of time , those of John Moses Browning and Dieudonne Saive .

I voted both . The 1911 as the leading edge of self loading pistols and the Glock as the leading edge of materials technology .

I still think the edge goes to the Glock as more revolting ...



come on you knew it was coming ....

~kop
 
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