Worst myths you've heard about guns which are meant to scare the general public?
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Scary Myth: The Stand Your Ground (SYG) law in Florida addresses gun rights and gun ownership.
Fact: The SYG law does not involve gun ownership or gun rights but it does say that a person may use deadly force in self-defense when there is reasonable belief of a threat, without an obligation to retreat first.
Deadly force can applied in many forms including, knives, hatchets, punching, kicking, strangling, choking, extreme force with a heavy blunt object, slamming a person's head against the pavement, etc.
Fact: The SYG law does not involve gun ownership or gun rights but it does say that a person may use deadly force in self-defense when there is reasonable belief of a threat, without an obligation to retreat first.
Deadly force can applied in many forms including, knives, hatchets, punching, kicking, strangling, choking, extreme force with a heavy blunt object, slamming a person's head against the pavement, etc.
Dain Bramage
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What's so hard to believe about a porcelain Glock that costs more than you earned last month, in a universe where wet jet fuel (essentially kerosene) burns like a fuse, even in mid-air?
ThatGuyHank
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Read a book arguing both sides of owning firearms and one guy writing against them proclaimed that too many people are in love with "sniper rifles". He proceeded to call the kel tec sub-9 a "folding sniper rifle"
because it could accurately make headshots at 100 yards and hit a man sized target at 150 yards. I could barely control my laughter. Imagine the look on his face when he hears that mosin nagants can engage a man sized target at 300 yards and only cost 100$ plus bayonet
because it could accurately make headshots at 100 yards and hit a man sized target at 150 yards. I could barely control my laughter. Imagine the look on his face when he hears that mosin nagants can engage a man sized target at 300 yards and only cost 100$ plus bayonetRagnar Danneskjold
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Unfortunately, some states, like mine, DO have handgun registration.
RCWFL
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Myth: You can not own "military grade weapons" or "assault weapons."
The sad thing is I heard this years after the AWB was repealed.
The sad thing is I heard this years after the AWB was repealed.
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'Slick Willie' Clinton talking about Black Talon acting like a high RPM buzz saw as it travels through the body would rank close to the top of silliness.
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mortablunt
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Way too much to list, so I'm just going to lay out several vids full of them.
Everything here:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908//vp/41030180#41030180
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNTZvIYw_iA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QjZY3WiO9s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=US1pqUZkLnw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQEDvqmAfqg&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baPgr_tw79Q&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrpg7XEJYYk&feature=relmfu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_ziDfh5IrQ&feature=relmfu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=___zc2phwo4&feature=relmfu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeE9ZoKyBh8&feature=relmfu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhuTarLBmLI&feature=relmfu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=seopKb7ncY8&feature=relmfu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQN1u_aPgcM&feature=relmfu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eaIlV15TZA&feature=relmfu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-U4uOz1_Jo&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHsX7STHqNg&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRQqieimwLQ&feature=related
Everything here:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908//vp/41030180#41030180
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNTZvIYw_iA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QjZY3WiO9s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=US1pqUZkLnw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQEDvqmAfqg&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baPgr_tw79Q&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrpg7XEJYYk&feature=relmfu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_ziDfh5IrQ&feature=relmfu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=___zc2phwo4&feature=relmfu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeE9ZoKyBh8&feature=relmfu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhuTarLBmLI&feature=relmfu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=seopKb7ncY8&feature=relmfu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQN1u_aPgcM&feature=relmfu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eaIlV15TZA&feature=relmfu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-U4uOz1_Jo&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHsX7STHqNg&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRQqieimwLQ&feature=related
Loosedhorse
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Myth 1. All gun owners are just like that monster Zimmerman you've heard about.
Myth 2. Zimmerman is just like that monster Zimmerman you've heard about.
Myth 2. Zimmerman is just like that monster Zimmerman you've heard about.
SabbathWolf
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Absolutely correct.
The cyclic rate of fire for the M16A2 for example is around 800 rounds per minute.
But nobody makes 800 round magazines.
ol' scratch
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That the second amendment applies to the militia (even after Heller).
SKS rifles are like a 30-06 hunting rifle.
An AK is more powerful than a "normal" hunting rifle.
An AK can penetrate body armor, but a hunting rifle can't.
An AK shoots a .308 Winchester (THANKS STUPID FUTURE WEAPONS!!!)
That if we didn't have guns, crime would be nonexistent.
Bayonet lugs make a rifle more dangerous because someone can use a bayonet to stab someone while they reload.
A barrel shroud is that thingy that flips up.
"Assault rifles" (What the media calls all rifles that are semiautomatic or have a flash supressor) have no hunting or sporting purposes.
A 50 cal rifle can be used to shoot down an airplane.
A Norinco type 56 SKS is an assault rifle, but any other SKS is somehow less likely to "assault" someone.
You can't legally own a Machine Gun.
Semi auto rifles are machine guns because they look scary.
SKS rifles are like a 30-06 hunting rifle.
An AK is more powerful than a "normal" hunting rifle.
An AK can penetrate body armor, but a hunting rifle can't.
An AK shoots a .308 Winchester (THANKS STUPID FUTURE WEAPONS!!!)
That if we didn't have guns, crime would be nonexistent.
Bayonet lugs make a rifle more dangerous because someone can use a bayonet to stab someone while they reload.
A barrel shroud is that thingy that flips up.
"Assault rifles" (What the media calls all rifles that are semiautomatic or have a flash supressor) have no hunting or sporting purposes.
A 50 cal rifle can be used to shoot down an airplane.
A Norinco type 56 SKS is an assault rifle, but any other SKS is somehow less likely to "assault" someone.
You can't legally own a Machine Gun.
Semi auto rifles are machine guns because they look scary.
This is what I try to explain to people when they try and tell me their buddy had a J22 that blew up and seriously injured them but the anti's damage has been done.
My other favorite is "I had an RG (insert model) that used to fire two shots at once, one out the barrel and one out of the next cylinder".
Carl N. Brown
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Speaking of scaring the public....
Titles of gun control skreeds like
"This Very Day a Gun May Kill You!" (Carl Bakal) and
"Every Handgun is Aimed at You!" (Josh Sugarmann).
Do da math (its so simple even an "innumerate faith-based gun-hugger" like me can do it):
Take the oft-quoted figure of 30,000 shooting deaths versus 2,437,163 total deaths in USA (CDC 2011). "This very day a lot of things are more likely to kill you besides guns." That might make people look at health and safety concerns in areas of their life that they can immediately control.
The National Academy of Sciences in reviewing gun control policies in 2004 pointed out about "Gun Buybacks" that there were 6,500 handgun homicides per year out of 65 million handguns; therefore, to get one potential murder weapon in a year, a buyback would have to randomly select 10,000 handguns. "One out of ten thousand handguns is aimed at you!" is not quite as scary and would not sell as many books. (Even with a scary title, Amazon Best Sellers Rank: #2,985,133 in Books)
Titles of gun control skreeds like
"This Very Day a Gun May Kill You!" (Carl Bakal) and
"Every Handgun is Aimed at You!" (Josh Sugarmann).
Do da math (its so simple even an "innumerate faith-based gun-hugger" like me can do it):
Take the oft-quoted figure of 30,000 shooting deaths versus 2,437,163 total deaths in USA (CDC 2011). "This very day a lot of things are more likely to kill you besides guns." That might make people look at health and safety concerns in areas of their life that they can immediately control.
The National Academy of Sciences in reviewing gun control policies in 2004 pointed out about "Gun Buybacks" that there were 6,500 handgun homicides per year out of 65 million handguns; therefore, to get one potential murder weapon in a year, a buyback would have to randomly select 10,000 handguns. "One out of ten thousand handguns is aimed at you!" is not quite as scary and would not sell as many books. (Even with a scary title, Amazon Best Sellers Rank: #2,985,133 in Books)
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The two I have heard most are:
1) A hollow point explodes in your body.
2) A Glock doesn't show up on X-ray.
1) A hollow point explodes in your body.
2) A Glock doesn't show up on X-ray.
ADKWOODSMAN
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A pistol round will not go through a car door. In the old junk car in the woods, at 14 years old, we disproved that with a .22 lr rifle.
http://www.bradycampaign.org/stategunlaws/scorecard/KY
"Kentucky has weak gun laws that help feed the illegal gun market and allow the sale of guns without background checks, according to the Brady Campaign."
I can go to my local gun store and buy a new firearm without a background check?
Cool..I wasn't aware of that....
"Kentucky has weak gun laws that help feed the illegal gun market and allow the sale of guns without background checks, according to the Brady Campaign."
I can go to my local gun store and buy a new firearm without a background check?
Cool..I wasn't aware of that....
No no no, my good man. What you are referring to is the Black Talons. Those things just shred the cops' kevlar vests.
Or...you could be referring to the Nyclads. Those are teflon coated, no bullet proof vest can stop them!
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Just the sound of racking the slide on a pump action shotgun will scare off the intruder/bad guy.
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An observation - people that I've met from the METROPOLITAN east coast (NYC, urban NJ, Philly, Boston, DC, etc.) are usually vocal anti-gun folks. This does NOT include upstate NY, rural NJ, New England or anywhere south of Virginia. Anyone else notice that? I'm in the midwest, so i don't meet tons of people from NYC, but it seems that anywhere guns are illegal, people from those areas think only criminals or deliverance types have firearms.
Of course, this geographic arrogance isn't just limited to gun ownership. I remember being in a NE truckstop along the interstate when some elderly out-of-towners walked in. They looked around wide eyed as if they'd just been transported to another planet. Then one of them loudly declared, in a thick NYC/yiddish accent, "SUCH A RED STATE! SUCH A RED STATE!"
Of course, this geographic arrogance isn't just limited to gun ownership. I remember being in a NE truckstop along the interstate when some elderly out-of-towners walked in. They looked around wide eyed as if they'd just been transported to another planet. Then one of them loudly declared, in a thick NYC/yiddish accent, "SUCH A RED STATE! SUCH A RED STATE!"
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