Vern Humphrey
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It tells us there is no justification for "gun control."If all you are doing is disproving a positive correlation between liberalized CCW and violent crime, then yes, you are absolutely correct. Statistics have not shown this to be true, the exact opposite in many cases. But what does this tell us?
Actually there is a correlation between liberalized CCW and increase in violent crime. It is a negative correlation -- as one goes up, the other goes down.That there is no correlation between liberalized CCW and increase in violent crime. That is all. You cannot infer anything other from that. It's true you wouldn't really need to in this case for that's really the only stat the anti's have in their arsenal.
That, however, is irrelevant to the discussion.What I'm talking about is someone stating "there is a positive correlation between increase in firearm ownership and decrease in violent crime, therefore, guns keep violent crime down." This cannot be inferred from a correlation, cause and effect cannot be identified.
As I pointed out, there is no way to prove the theories of aerodynamics -- yet we can build airplanes that fly very well. It is the flying that counts, not the theory or the proof.
Similarly, it is the change in violent crime that counts, not the theories or suppositions.
That is exactly my point -- that they are violating our civil rights and citing "preventing violent crime" as their "justification." And we can show that justification is false.So yes, if all you were saying is the primary stat anti's use to show a negative effect of firearm ownership is false, then you are correct and I misunderstood you.
Our airplane flies, theirs doesn't.