Intuit drops my company because we sell gun stuff

This is disgusting.
I used to have a small chain of retail stores, and it would have seriously messed me up if my merchant services provider had dropped me with no notice period.

I wonder what the reason is?

It must be either a change of policy by someone who really hates guns, or a fear of negative publicity.
I usually assume the latter in cases like these, but I'm not so sure about this one.
Would 'Intuit processed credit card transaction for payment for gun used in massacre' really make a good headline?

Must be some nutjob crusader on the board of directors.

Seriously, look at Squareup.com. I pay 2.75% if the card is present, 3.0% if its not. No monthly fee. No terminal. Don't have to deal with any of the various cc rebate things. Money is in my account by the next day. I've taken in $4,000 charges with no problem. I can swipe/take cards on my iPhone or ipad.

And I am not affiliated with them at all except as a loyal customer.

Dropped quick books (Intuit) and Turbo Tax (Intuit) last year.

Trust me you will be happy about this, Intuit charges ridiculously high processing rates. My company tried them out at one of our stores and we were literally paying 2-3 times as much in fees compared to our other stores. I promise if you shop around you can find interchange + $.07 a transaction.

Intuit was also running 2 or 3 days to fund. Our other processors fund next business day.

Seriously, Intuit is one of the worst companies in America.

Do NOT do business with them.

posted this on Facebook. Hopefully I can help shrink their bankroll

I swear that something was hatched in one of those Biden Gun Control committees. I don't know what, but he must have said something to scare Walmart and Intuit.

Intuit is a private company. If they don't like money, then good for them.
There are other processors who do like money.

No Intuit products for me.

Choose a new merchant account. Their loss.

We were just talking about taxes over dinner this evening, I know who I wont use this year.

Sorry to hear about the inconvenience and thank you for the heads up.

Pretty soon it will get to the point where we simply cannot survive in normal society without doing business with some anti-gun entity or another.

We can decline to trade with some of them, but if that is our mantra and it controls our lives, what will we do when every supermarket chain, bank, and hardware store drops it's firearms-based clientele?

i WILL show my support for the 2nd amendment and be looking for different software to do my taxes.

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www.TaxAct.com is cheaper and works great. I've used them for years.

As to Zak - I've heard of this happening more and more. Buds Gunshop just announced on Facebook that their finance company that they let customers finance guns through is dropping their account too (though they're CC processor is unaffected).

Just find a new processor and continue on. That's the beauty of capitalism. With the amount of money spent on guns and accessories SOMEBODY will want your and our business .

Thanks for the link on TaxAct never heard of them, been using Turbo Tax for years.

-Jenrick

Does the agreement not at least allow for some sort of notification before ceasing service? Could they be liable for lost revenue if sufficient notice was not provided?

It looks like Intuit does not want an email from anyone. They do have physical addresses and phone numbers.

http://about.intuit.com/about_intuit/locations/

Turbo Tax has a contact page.

https://turbotax.intuit.com/support/contact/index.jsp?_requestid=41975

Jim

Get set up with Payment Alliance International for your processing. They not only approve of gun sales, but actually support the NRA and other RKBA groups. Their rates are decent too.

e5i5o said:

ironic?
before i signed on i read this post with the advertisement to let right of your original post. guess what, the advertisement window was for intuit investment!

also, i am reading more and more about company removing themselves from gun related businesses. not good.

last, getting ready for tax season and i looked at my turbo tax. its made by intuit!

i WILL show my support for the 2nd amendment and be looking for different software to do my taxes.

good luck and best wishes.

take care
e5i5o

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As are all the Quickbooks line of software!

Too bad. Been using turbotax for many years now. Not this year. I vote with my $$, not gun friendly, don't get my $$.

Zak Smith said:

I am one of the owners of a silencer manufacturing company. We have used Intuit for the last 5 years as our credit card processing service/vendor ("merchant account").

At about 4:30 PM today I got a call that they were cancelling our merchant account (effective today) because their new policy prohibits all gun stuff.

We are not happy to put it mildly.

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That is discriminating I thought that was ageist the law !!

That's ridiculous! Getting out of hand indeed. I'll do a mental catalog to never do business with them again, right along with; Jared's Jewlers, Toys R US, Buffalo Wildwings and Bank of America.

Intuit has discriminated against firearm dealers and manufacturers for a long time. So have First Data, authorize.net, square, and some others.

Payment Alliance International and First National Merchant Solutions are both good to go.

FWIW the reason for the discrimination has nothing to do with the RKBA. It's because we take payments and ship product to someone other than the purchaser/card holder (guns shipped interstate must go through a transfer FFL). This makes us "riskier" in the financial transaction world, which is a laugh IMO since we've never had a chargeback and have only ever had to issue one refund in four years.

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That is discriminating I thought that was ageist the law !!

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No. A private business can cease doing business with a company if they choose to for some business interest. And no, folks, it's not "only for protected classes."

I've dropped female-owned businesses as a client. I've refused business from companies owned by individuals over 45 years old. I've also dropped clients who were businesses owned by 30-something white guys without disability. In each case, I had a specific business interest in doing so.

In cases in which the client is not a member of a federally protected class, the question is whether the business's refusal of service was arbitrary, or whether the business had a specific interest in refusing service.

"Good public relations" and "fear of liability" are, in fact, a specific business reason for doing something. I don't do business with pornographers because I don't want bad PR. I refuse to conduct my business where some bystander could get hurt from falling rigging because I don't want the liability. I'm not breaking any laws.

Of note. Chase and Bank of America have also declined to service gun company accounts. They cited political and PR reasons.

Freedoms cut both ways.