Police Face Ammo Shortages

Does that mean we will see uniformed officers in line at Walmart waiting with us for ammo for their off duty arms??


Jim

All the more reason to limit departments like DHS from buying so much.

Federal gov will just end up being the ones who control the ammo for the state and local police. Just another layer of control.

Does that mean we will see uniformed officers in line at Walmart waiting with us for ammo for their off duty arms??

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Are you implying that cops get free ammo from their departments to shoot personally owned guns on their own time? If so, sources please.

avs11054 said:

Are you implying that cops get free ammo from their departments to shoot personally owned guns on their own time? If so, sources please.

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Wake up and smell the coffee.

The Federal Govt. will just supply them. Same way that companies who refuse to sell to police in non free states will be worked around by the feds supplying the police depts with any guns they need.

I am glad they are running out of ammo which I think is a lie anyway. the less ammo they got the safer civilians and dogs are

Are you implying that cops get free ammo from their departments to shoot personally owned guns on their own time? If so, sources please.

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The only two cops I know.... some how get free ammo from their departments.

But why is there a shortage on ammo that the DHS is not ordering?

Anything needed in large quantities takes lead time.

Even Barney Fife would have known that it takes lead time when you order in large quantities. Any smart businessman knows that they need to place a restocking order long before current stock runs out, especially if the merchandise is coming from another country.

Certain Customs agents used to get all the free ammo they wanted. Same with INS. What they didn't want was hauled to our local dump by them unsupervised to be run over by a dozer and buried. I saw cases and cases of +P+ 38 at our local gs. This was back in the 80's. Each year they would get new ammo so the old had to go. Don't get me wrong, I don't blame the agent's as much as I blame the system.

I'm certain this deficency has been corrected by now.

TroyR said:

But why is there a shortage on ammo that the DHS is not ordering?

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Because manufacturers need to quit making other types to fill such big orders?

This is all the more reason that our elected people need to force an answer from DHS, who refuses to justify their purchases.

They only need six, or seven. NY says that is all that anyone needs. Here in Cleveland they shoot WAY too many rounds, anyway, and sometimes at unarmed folk. http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2013/02/cleveland_police_chase_and_shooting_scene.html

Standard capacity revolvers hold 6. With 3 speedloaders, that's 24. 1/2 box of 50 and one left over.

Standard capacity 1911 .45 ACP magazines are 7. Plenty enough for NY. One in the gun, 3 in mag pouches and one in the chamber=29. That leaves 21 more in the box of 50. Enough to refill 3 magazines.

Problem?

hoji said:

http://m.cnsnews.com/blog/gregory-gwyn-williams-jr/police-departments-beg-and-barter-ammo-while-dhs-buys-16-billion

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Gee, I am going to cry now.

Off duty cops should be limited to six or seven shots. Great idea.

Eyesac said:

The only two cops I know.... some how get free ammo from their departments.

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It isn't free for anyone besides the police and government agencies.

We get to shoulder the costs of training and supplying police ammunition. Just like DHS, it is funded by our taxes.

In other words we get to pay for them to suck up all the ammo like a sponge and create an artificial ammunition shortage.

This is all the more reason that our elected people need to force an answer from DHS, who refuses to justify their purchases.

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Seriously guys? We've been over the DHS thing numerous times. The often quoted figure is for orders over several years and isn't actually an order, it's an estimate for the maximum number of rounds they might order. DHS supplies numerous agencies and departments and runs several training programs (for police departments and federal agencies and thus sees thousands of trainees). In those training programs people burn though a lot of ammo. This has been the case for many years already.

Just like DHS, it is funded by our taxes. In other words we get to pay for them to suck up all the ammo like a sponge and create an artificial ammunition shortage.

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DHS orders are not the cause of the ammo shortage and are not part of some sort of conspiracy. The cause of the ammo shortage is everyone and their cousin buying up any ammo they see on the shelves because they're concerned about some sort of ban. If you want to complain to your elected officials, get them to stop the stupid anti-gun bills and that will resolve your crisis nicely.

Arbo said:

Because manufacturers need to quit making other types to fill such big orders?

This is all the more reason that our elected people need to force an answer from DHS, who refuses to justify their purchases.

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Rehashing this same conspiracy issue over and over again is making it tough trying to sort out which postings are actually worthwhile to read.

Rehashing this same conspiracy issue over and over again is making it tough trying to sort out which postings are actually worthwhile to read.

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Hahaha. Well said.

AlbertH said:

Rehashing this same conspiracy issue over and over again is making it tough trying to sort out which postings are actually worthwhile to read.

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.... and when they came for me, there was nobody left to stand up for me...

In other news, I'll sell my remaining stash of 500 JHP rounds to anyone with LEO credentials for the paultry sum of $5000.

Arbo said:

.... and when they came for me, there was nobody left to stand up for me...

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Yea, because when you ignore debunked rumors to slather on an extra layer of tinfoil and paranoia, it makes rumors into truth

silicosys4 said:

Yea, because when you ignore debunked rumors to slather on an extra layer of tinfoil and paranoia, it makes rumors into truth

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I read about it in the Denver Post, not know for being a right wing paper. I have never seen the story 'debunked'.

Governments throughout time have a history of lying to their people and doing some pretty dirty things... I choose to keep the lessons of history at hand, rather than ignore them.