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That's what I expected. Pretty much any transfer involving any internet ad--even a classified cross-printed on line--will require a check. I dare say that implicates most FTF transfers in the 21st century. And broadly construed (as BATFE doubtless WILL construe it), it would encompass any transfer involving any exchange of email, text message or PM on a forum. Post in the rifle forum and mention you might want to sell a rifle? Now you are barred from FTF transfer without NICS. Forever, presumably. It's a nightmare begetting nightmares. Far worse than a total UBC in some ways, because of the traps it lays for the unwary.
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No, that is not the case. The new requirement does not apply if:
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"(B) the transfer is made between an unlicensed transferor and an unlicensed transferee residing in the same State, which takes place in such State, if-
"(i) the Attorney General certifies that State in which the transfer takes place has in effect requirements under law that are generally equivalent to the requirements of this section; and
"(ii) the transfer was conducted in compliance with the laws of the State;
People need to read the actual text here before going off.
Sounds like FTF personal sales are allowed, but only from your private residence?
"(7) For purposes of this subsection, the term ‘gun show or event'-
"(A) means any event at which 75 or more firearms are offered or exhibited for sale, exchange, or transfer, if 1 or more of the firearms has been shipped or transported in, or otherwise affects, interstate or foreign commerce; and
"(B) does not include an offer or exhibit of firearms for sale, exchange, or transfer by an individual from the personal collection of that individual, at the private residence of that individual, if the individual is not required to be licensed under section 923.".
From what I've read so far, the "Interstate Transportation" section will override all local and state laws allowing any concealed or open possession of a loaded firearm in a vehicle. All firearms must be locked up, ammunition must be separate, and not just securely cased. I'm not a lawyer, but I couldn't find an exemption for it.
Matt
Like I said, IANAL. I read the proposed bill and tried to fit it into the existing law, but this is a total layman's reading of it.Someone please tell me this is wrong. This is one of the main reasons that I have my CCW permit in PA. So I can carry them loaded since a vehicle is considered concealment here. This really bothers me since Toomey is from this state.
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edited my post accordingly...Morcey, I should have added that I do indeed oppose background checks, on the principle that law-abiding citizens shouldn't be treated as criminals.
Sorry for coming across as apathetic!
Armslist, utahgunexchange.com, and tons of others would disappear overnight.
It's THE LAW. They HAVE to follow it.How exactly is the BS gonna stop gang bangers from buying guns that their lowlife buddies stole during a burglary/robbery?
This is ludicrous!
Did you even read it? The part everybody is getting messed up about your house is in the definition of a gun show.This is garbage. So I can only buy and sale face to face in parking lots with people who have handgun carry permits? If not, then the person has to come to my house? No thank you.
Keep the pressure on the House of Representatives.
irst off, I do not support it out of sheer principal, but, if it were to pass, I really don't think we will see much change at all.
This bill will make all transfers at gunshows require nics.
It will still allow ftf private transfers in state without nics.
It will allow ftf transactions between individuals where the deal was constructed online.
all shipping transfers will be the same.
We will be allowed to buy handguns from dealers out of state f
Which part do you not support? The part where you can buy handguns across state lines? The part where your carry permit substitutes for a NICS check? The part where NICS has 24 hours to respond, not 72?
The only people screwed here are the guys setting up tables at gunshows with big signs saying "No background check". And to heck with them.
Basically, it makes the gunshows a big gun store and keeps the internet from becoming a way around dealers doing nics.
I do fear blumenthaw's proposal to "spear head" the amendments of the AWB and Hi cap magazine restrictions being added to this bill