I got my G-17 after I got training & range time with a guy I know who is a Philly detective, and who carries a 19 as a duty weapon. Talk to a LEO and he will tell you that the brand of gun is only part of the equation, you need quality ammo, practice and range time and all the formal training you can get with whatever you have.
Glock Love
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Godsgunman
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Not a Glock fanboy but they are good reliable guns. I owned a 26 but sold itfor personal reasons. There are plenty of other manufacturers just as reliable so to each his own. Glock IS NOT Perfection though, but it does its designed purpose well.
The sad part is S&W sold the Sigma, S&W99 and now makes the M&P and Glock is still better pistol.Don't you mean they could at least come up with a better polymer handgun like Smith and Wesson did?..lol
Hangingrock
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The last three plus years I’ve been using S&W MP9 and Glock G17 on a regular basis. I think that S&W has an excellent design with the MP series. I also like the Glock Gen-3. I’ve not handled the Glock Gen-4 yet. Either way they are both good pistols. As far as one over the other that’s an individual’s subjective decision.
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Pukindog12
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I have fired Glocks before and have concluded they are not for me. That doesn't mean they aren't good and reliable handguns. Just not for me.
On a side note. I wonder how many Glock boys there would be if they ever fired a Walther P99 AS or PPQ?
On a side note. I wonder how many Glock boys there would be if they ever fired a Walther P99 AS or PPQ?
CDawg
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Glocks are one of the few popular modern pistols that I've had absolutely no desire to own. I've shot them and they work well, but they're definitely not for me, even with the veterans discount. If someone gave me one, I'd sell it. To each their own.
WinThePennant
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There is actually MORE to the Glock than just shooting it.I have fired Glocks before and have concluded they are not for me. That doesn't mean they aren't good and reliable handguns. Just not for me.
On a side note. I wonder how many Glock boys there would be if they ever fired a Walther P99 AS or PPQ?
Everything about Glock is great. They shoot great (not the greatest, but great none the less), they can be self-smithed, EVERY part that makes up a Glock can be purchased from hundreds of places, and the after-market accessories are without equal.
Glock all the way.
Xfire68
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Was never a big fan of the Glock looks or anything else about the Glocks for that matter. Every time I went to the gun shop and handled one they did not feel right in my hand?
While shopping for a 10mm I kept checking out the Glock 20 and held a Gen 3 which was much more comfortable. I finally bought one and Right before the run on guns and I am nothing but happy with it. I did get a couple of light primer strikes on some reloads but, only a few out of 500++ so far.
Glocks=UGLY=Awesome!
While shopping for a 10mm I kept checking out the Glock 20 and held a Gen 3 which was much more comfortable. I finally bought one and Right before the run on guns and I am nothing but happy with it. I did get a couple of light primer strikes on some reloads but, only a few out of 500++ so far.
Glocks=UGLY=Awesome!
daveit
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I used to own a Springfield Armory XD9sc. I ordered it direct from SA with night sights. It showed up and the sights were both loose... you could move them by hand. I sent it back and had them fixed. It came back and one wasn't centered right. I paid my own money to fix that.
Finally got it to the range & put 500 rounds of WWB and a couple different types of SD ammo. It had too many FTE issues for me to trust it and I wasn't going to send it back for any more work. Sold it to a guy, bought a Glock G26 (and later a G17RTF2) and haven't looked back.
It's not as good looking or comfortable, but it goes bang whenever I pull the trigger. I ordered a Glock 30S the other day. After shooting my new 1911 and seeing what that does compared to 9mm, I decided I'd much rather carry that round.
So that being said (like the other fella said above) my love is more for the fact that it does what it needs to not for its looks.
Finally got it to the range & put 500 rounds of WWB and a couple different types of SD ammo. It had too many FTE issues for me to trust it and I wasn't going to send it back for any more work. Sold it to a guy, bought a Glock G26 (and later a G17RTF2) and haven't looked back.
It's not as good looking or comfortable, but it goes bang whenever I pull the trigger. I ordered a Glock 30S the other day. After shooting my new 1911 and seeing what that does compared to 9mm, I decided I'd much rather carry that round.
So that being said (like the other fella said above) my love is more for the fact that it does what it needs to not for its looks.
daveit
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Great point about the parts availability!
daveit
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People always bring this up... are there statistics or something out there? How do you know it's not some knucklehead that didn't load a round properly? You can take a couple Internet posts for anything and blow it out of proportion...
I've shot a lot of crappy ammo and a few thousand rounds of gun show reloads in my Glocks and they haven't exploded. "Kabooms" can happen to any firearm.
Earlier Glocks had less support for the case in the feed ramp area. This facilitated feeding and function. The opening in the chamber extended beyond the webbing at the head of the case and into the thinner side wall. This is where the blow outs and separations occurred. With normal loads and by refraining from reloading brass too many times, it usually wasn't a problem. However, apparently Glock did feel it was necessary to address this issue because they made subsequent changes to the chamber in the feed ramp area.
WinThePennant, I am quite certain that there are far more accessories and suppliers available for 1911's than for any other pistol in the world. So, by your own criteria this must make the 1911 the Greatest Pistol in the World...!!!!...LOL
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There are plenty of modern handguns that are just as reliable. But the Glock is still peerless, AFAIK, in terms of ease of detail strip and reassembly. 95% of the gun can be disassembled and reassembled with one hand and a toothpick... and zero curse words. If you subscribe to form-follows-function, the Glock is one fine-looking handgun.
You love Glocks? Good for you.
I do not. I do have my preference, but I do not love any guns. It's just guns.
I've seen jamming with all major brands I have ever got to fire except for springfield, and it's only because I had very little experience with them. Fire them enough, and I am sure I'll see some jamming.
I've seen Glock malfunction. Yes, Glock. Its ergonomics suck for me, and I hate the trigger with very abrasive feeling striker release point that has 7~8 lb resistance when they advsetise 5.5 b. Yes, their so called 5.5 lb trigger really isn't! Get your own scale and try measuring it. Unless you subscribe to the cult method of measuring a trigger resistance by puttin the scale on the bottom tip of the trigger(who the hell fires a gun like that?), you likely won't get 5.5 lb.
I can work with them. I'll take one over something like a Beretta M9. Not that M9 does not work as advertised, it just don't meet my requirements because of doctrine issues.
But, they're not all that worthy of the pedestal the worshipers put them on.
I do not. I do have my preference, but I do not love any guns. It's just guns.
I've seen jamming with all major brands I have ever got to fire except for springfield, and it's only because I had very little experience with them. Fire them enough, and I am sure I'll see some jamming.
I've seen Glock malfunction. Yes, Glock. Its ergonomics suck for me, and I hate the trigger with very abrasive feeling striker release point that has 7~8 lb resistance when they advsetise 5.5 b. Yes, their so called 5.5 lb trigger really isn't! Get your own scale and try measuring it. Unless you subscribe to the cult method of measuring a trigger resistance by puttin the scale on the bottom tip of the trigger(who the hell fires a gun like that?), you likely won't get 5.5 lb.
I can work with them. I'll take one over something like a Beretta M9. Not that M9 does not work as advertised, it just don't meet my requirements because of doctrine issues.
But, they're not all that worthy of the pedestal the worshipers put them on.
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Magnuumpwr
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Here is a not so great pic of my Glocks. Top left G35, below it G23, top right G22, below it G27, and bottom SBR-ed, suppressed G17.
dprice3844444
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i get mine at police price,which makes them relatively inexpensive.if i have to use it in self defense,i will not cry as much as all those fancy expensive pistols if it is seized as evidence for the investigation.they are virtually indestructible.
Never made it past the first part of the cycle.
I think they're ugly, don't like the feel, never owned one, never will. But hey, that's just me. When I'm looking to buy a gun I automatically filter them out if possible.
Buy and shoot what makes YOU happy. It's not my place to judge what you or anyone else likes but since you asked, I'm just giving my 2cents.
I think they're ugly, don't like the feel, never owned one, never will. But hey, that's just me. When I'm looking to buy a gun I automatically filter them out if possible.
Buy and shoot what makes YOU happy. It's not my place to judge what you or anyone else likes but since you asked, I'm just giving my 2cents.
I've shot a number of Glocks and they never have felt good in my hands... with the exception of the Glock 20. Why that one is different I can't explain, but it is the one Glock I'd like to own.
They are great guns, but as simple and plentiful as they are I can't help wondering why they are more expensive than, say, a comparable Ruger. They charge what the market will support, I guess, but I'm not going to spend more for a gun that feels less comfortable in my hands.
They are great guns, but as simple and plentiful as they are I can't help wondering why they are more expensive than, say, a comparable Ruger. They charge what the market will support, I guess, but I'm not going to spend more for a gun that feels less comfortable in my hands.
WinThePennant
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I've said it before, Glocks SHOOT better in the hand than they FEEL in the hand.
I wasn't that big a fan of Glocks either -- UNTIL I shot one.
I wasn't that big a fan of Glocks either -- UNTIL I shot one.
RBid
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I agree, 100%. Glocks feel 'OK' in my hand. I'd give the Gen 3 grip a 'B', and the Gen 4 texture a 'C'. I shoot them almost as well as I shoot the PPQ, which has a near perfect grip.
Since that post, I've added a G30sf, a G19, and two G23s (all Gen3) to the herd. Got a LW 9mm conversion barrel for the 23s, and am pleased with it. As an added bonus, a 10rd 23 mag holds 14 9mm cartridges, and functions flawlessly with the LW barrel. Next will be a .357 Sig barrel. I also bought a barely-used Les Baur SRP in hard chrome, at roughly the same cost as the four Glocks combined!
Given the CA DOJ denial of US-made G3s, and the non-listing of G4s, the possibility that Glock Austria goes exclusively G4 production has prompted me to buy a few extras!
I'm a fan....NOT a fanboy! Fanboys are ok if we are talking range toys and the guns we all love, but when it comes to serious social business there is no room for brand fantasys and marketing hype clouding real judgement and facts.
I took a very long and detailed look at carry pistols for serious social work before I made my choice. I was initially not interested in Glock and very skeptical about them. Were they the cheap choice for law enforcement agency's trying to meet a budget number and save money, or a serious option?
After all the research I did, focused on reliability, safety, shoot-ability, speed to initial and follow up shots, trigger mechanism, availability of parts, ease of fully detail stripping and re-assembly, including a detailed look at the design and function (which btw, I'm surprised how few people actually look at), interviews with real operators and gunsmiths and the actual track record in the field, the choice was very clear for me - Glock.
Is the Glock perfect...absolutely not, but it's about the best thing out there today in a carry pistol for serious social work. YMMV of course.
I took a very long and detailed look at carry pistols for serious social work before I made my choice. I was initially not interested in Glock and very skeptical about them. Were they the cheap choice for law enforcement agency's trying to meet a budget number and save money, or a serious option?
After all the research I did, focused on reliability, safety, shoot-ability, speed to initial and follow up shots, trigger mechanism, availability of parts, ease of fully detail stripping and re-assembly, including a detailed look at the design and function (which btw, I'm surprised how few people actually look at), interviews with real operators and gunsmiths and the actual track record in the field, the choice was very clear for me - Glock.
Is the Glock perfect...absolutely not, but it's about the best thing out there today in a carry pistol for serious social work. YMMV of course.
Dframe
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I've never liked them. I carried one for several years as required by my employer but never fell in love with them. I own exactly ONE that I bought back from my department when I retired. I will never own another.
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