Took some "extremely left wing" friends to the gunrange today. . .

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We had a blast (thanks to tannerite). Spent over 5 hours on the range.

Andy and Lucy are acquaintances of mine from Ireland, and are in the US on a work visa starting next week. They're spending this week visiting various people they've "met" online.

Naturally I had to take them to the range.

Taught them the four rules, and the basics. Gave them unlimited use of my .17hmr and .22lr scoped rifles. After 2 hours of rimfire rifles we moved to a rimfire handgun. After an hour or so of that, I brought out my 30-06 hunting rifle. After a couple offhand shots, Lucy was given one single round to attempt to hit a 2lb cannster of Tannerite at 100 yards. This is her first shot ever from a seated position. Note how she's bracing her elbow on her knee.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBW2j3vk77w

Her first four shots with my .17 hmr. (yes, I'm snarky and I told her she missed. :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHF1NIxmiW4
 
Great job!


As gun owners our future problems will be greatly lessened if we just took new people to the range.


Shooting IS fun........ But if WE dont take the VOTING, Non shooter to the range...... Who will?

Many people who have never been around shooting, MAY side with the anti's

I have taken many non shooters to the range over the past 3-4 years, and a high percentage now have a pistol or rifle of their own, and 4 have their CHL. Its not that hard.

If we all took just one non shooter to the range per quarter, in 3 years the politicians wouldnt dare to ever bring it up again

Win hearts and minds one at a time.... It will save our collective bacon later
 
It is in our own interest to introduce as many people as possible to safe and fun shooting.

Good job!
 
I could safely say that 90% of the shooters I train have never fired any kind of firearm in their lives. By the time they're done with the class, they are anxious to buy a firearm of there own and continue shooting. Most also join the NRA.:D
 
Years ago, right around the passage of the AWB in 1994, I took a bunch of friends who were anti gun to the range. I brought a few Russian SKS's, an AR-15,some Ruger MK II's, and a few 9MM pistols. Some had NEVER shot nor even held a firearm before in their lives. These were all American men in their early to mid 30's.

Bottom line is they had a ball! Everyone shot, and everyone had safe, good old range fun. However, when we got home I asked them if it had changed their anti gun stance. Most replied that while I was a responsible gun owner, some aren't so nobody should be able to have guns. I was very disappointed.
 
"Left wing" in Ireland is not the same as "left wing" in the U.S. In fact the whole political spectrum in Europe is different from that in the U.S. On top of that, being anti-gun is not necessarily synonymous with being left wing -- and that's true even in the U.S. People on the extreme left tend to be supporters of gun rights (for their own reasons, of course). Antigunners come from what could be called the bourgeois, moderate left. Pro-gunners come from the libertarian strain, whether that's right-wing libertarianism or left-wing libertarianism.
 
And the point is!?

Since we know we aren't going to change what little there is of a "real Lefty's" mind, tell me exactly why we'd teach them to handle the firearms they intend to disarm citizens of again one way or the other? As for political positions, the Democrat PARTY has an anti-gun plank in its agenda for cryin' out loud!
 
Since we know we aren't going to change what little there is of a "real Lefty's" mind, tell me exactly why we'd teach them to handle the firearms they intend to disarm citizens of again one way or the other? As for political positions, the Democrat PARTY has an anti-gun plank in its agenda for cryin' out loud!
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They're Irish. They might need to start shooting at the English again.

Just like we used to.
 
Lucy had the range down as a necissary evil for visiting the US: Gotta shoot guns at some point.

By the end of the day, after repeating her single shot bullseyes several times, she is encouraged to look into the sport herself. And she REALLY loves my hunting rifle.

Andy also had fun, and was wearing a silly stupid grin most of the evening, but his favorite was my .17hmr (Which is a freaking tack driver. From 5 feet to about 75 yards I'd say my .17 is more accurate than my hunting rifle. From 75 to 350 yards my hunting rifle might as well be a laser I got REALLY lucky)

Both are interested in getting involved more, and will be encouraging their other 'Murcan friends to do so as well.
 
Ireland fought a small war with the British from approx. 1918-21, and only then became independent. My wife and I returned from Ireland about two months ago.

How about lots of fairly conservative people who mostly watched, or still only watch CNN, ABC etc? If those are their only sources about gun issues, and have no family/friends who are involved with shooting, their opinions might be somewhat similar to the "other flavor" of anti. Many of us had simply been very indifferent.

Years ago, CNN/NBC were my only sources other than the daily city rag, therefore I was skeptical about the NRA, due to deceptive reporting about the 'cop-killer' bullet, "assault rifle" issue etc. About seven years ago a coworker pointed out a couple of things, and the sun began to shine into very dark places.
 
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You are a stronger man than I. I only have a couple liberal friends I can stand being around...and none of them are interested in shooting :)
 
More than anything else it seems to be the near-total lack of exposure, when living in larger cities, in contrast to those living in small towns or rural areas.
 
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Why?

The Irish aren't ruled by the English and the Republic of Ireland isn't part of Great Britain.
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the English brutalized the irish for hundreds of years and up until the 1990's. they starved hundreds of thousands in the potato famine that is hard to forget
 
extreme left wing friends could be an important source of food in an post- apocalyptic world lol
 
Pretty much.

Whenever I start a job at a new location I always offer everyone working there to go out to the range for some marksmanship practice and gun safety. Had a couple takers, but IMO far too few.

I work in hotels, btw, and I've had more guests take me up on the offer than coworkers.
 
I no longer fraternize with liberals. Lost a coupla "friends" and happily a few acquaintances through this decision. One arguing with me how safe kidnapping-capital-of-the-world Mexico City is. Another inviting me out and, being tired of these folk, I had to ask if there would be anyone else there who didn't work for a government -- the old state university professor and former IRA gun-runner who was cheating on his wife with a student told me he didn't!

I certainly wouldn't teach these deviates to use a gun. Run with scissors, maybe!
 
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