Why is that? You can buy parts to make an AR be whatever you want.I am a die hard ar fan but I am the first to admit they weren't designed for a traditional scope.
truth be told, there isnt really anything an AR cant do as well as a bolt gun nowadays.
Except if you want a light rifle that fires a non-intermediate cartridge. Until the AR-10 weighs the same as a Winchester 70 or a Remington 700, or any of the great Savages, there will always be a reason for a bolt.
Even the weight is almost the same as most bolt rifles. The S&W M&P10 weighs 7.7lbs, whereas a Winchester M70 Featherweight weighs 6.7lbs or a Remington 700 BDL weighs in at 7.3lbs. For .4-1 pound difference, you gain quite a lot of utility with the semi auto. That .4-1lb weight difference could easily be made up by using other, lighter gear (such as sights/scope, bino's, GPS, sandwich, heck even a new big cell phone).
If you compare it to a heavier barreled bolt gun, the .308 M&P will be lighter.
No, I don't think so. I think it is the most ergonomic and adaptable rifle there is. If there is something about it that you don't care for you can just change it.Is the Semi-Auto EBR overrated?
Thank you. The elitist bull-crap is very helpful. I didn't know HiPoint made a AR.Just about*anything*is better than a Bushy- except HiPoint and Olympic
And you're assuming you need a .308 to hunt. Most big game hunting in the US consists of deer and short range. AR15 compatible calibers will easily handle that. You can get low 6 lb ARs. And then "mountain hunting." Come on. Lets just include hunting cape buffalo in thick brush. You still want that 5.5 lb Savage?But you're comparing the lightest AR 10 to a standard weight bolt. Try a Savage Lightweight Hunter, at 5.5 lbs, or a Tikka Lite at 6. 2.1 lbs is a sizable difference, and saying that you can make up the difference in other gear is disingenuous at best. After all, if you're that mountain hunter who's worried about ounces, wouldn't you already be using pretty light gear?
his Rem is cheaper accurate way easier to clean without employing a dental hygienist and if he thinks it is better he will do better with it a lot of this is mental. now he will not be able to saturate a target with lead as fast as an AR but how many times must you shoot somethingbetter at what?
The pump is better for what? If you mean self defense, take it to a carbine class and see how it does. When you do, let us know
Try shooting that pump from prone or any supported position
As a reliable self defense weapon
Premium on reliability.
I also like the pump because:
(1) It does not load the next round until I am ready.
(2) I find the charging handle of the XM-15 ackward.
As a reliable self defense weapon
Premium on reliability.
I also like the pump because:
(1) It does not load the next round until I am ready.
(2) I find the charging handle of the XM-15 ackward.
And you're assuming you need a .308 to hunt. Most big game hunting in the US consists of deer and short range. AR15 compatible calibers will easily handle that. You can get low 6 lb ARs. And then "mountain hunting." Come on. Lets just include hunting cape buffalo in thick brush. You still want that 5.5 lb Savage?
I'm not a big advocate of ARs for hunting BTW, just trying to keep things fair around here. Obviously no gun is ideal for every imaginable scenario.