Disruptions to powder supply - AP70N

If AP70N is what I think it is hopefully we will see some at the start of 2014.

http://www.adi-powders.com.au/handloaders-guide/news.asp

Understatement of the year....
"ADI Powders are aware that some of our customers may have lately experienced some difficulty in getting hold of some of our powders. We are aware of some temporary disruptions to powder supply at the moment, resulting in a few localised powder shortages"


Ouch!, the dreaded loacalised powder shortage rears its ugly head.
:banghead:

Not trying to bad mouth ADI or anyone I just thought the end of statement was funny.

Yes, I know they were talking about ADI powders in Australia.
Just thought it was kind of funny. It seems that we have the same situation here in the US with most suppliers and most powders so I was just laughing at the localised powder shortage part. There may not be a "shortage" there may just be a huge increase in demand that is outstripping supply making powder difficult to find.
Now if I just had a .50BMG (and they were legal in California) I could find powder for it.
Maybe I have not been looking for powder in the right places.:banghead:

For those of us who shoot quite a bit there might be legal (as well as monetary)issues about a three year supply. Some places NFPA 495 applies and limits you for example to storing 10000 primers and 20 lbs of powder in residences. Some places are even more restrictive.

(Note: I am not a lawyer and did not stay at a Holiday inn last night)

http://www.saami.org/specifications_and_information/index.cfm?page=pubs
See items 200 and 201
I wish I it was possible for me to have a three year supply.

Maybe if I win the Power Ball one day....

Rats, zipped it up but it is still above the attachment size.

Be careful installing Acrobat sometimes it wants to install other stuff as well.
Note: Adobe reader is fairly safe but bad .pdfs can and do exist, And Adobe flash is nice, but flash and Java are responsible for creating a lot of security holes,
at least in Windows in my opinion.

Sorry this is off thread.

Ah yes, if there are any legal issues involved.

I would love to have a bomb proof bunker on a couple of hundred square miles of land with lots of food, water, gas, medical supplies, guns and ammo, where I could just walk outside and shoot, just like I would prefer not to have to go to work on Monday but for most of us there are monetary considerations, if you don't have to worry about money I am happy for you.

I will leave it there as I don't want this to deteriorate and deviate from the High Road.

I see the same sort of thing in 9mm data and I am sure there are more for other powders/cartridges as well)
ADI
L 125 AP70N 3.5 980 27,000 psi 3.8 1,055 33,050 psi
Hodgdon
125 GR. LCN Hodgdon Universal .356" 1.125" 3.8 993 24,400 CUP 4.3 1096 31,300 CUP
Hodgdons start is ADIs max!

I do see in this case that one pressure is in CUP and the other is PSI, sure wish we could get everything in PSI so we could compare apples to apples not oranges.

ADI does not show an OAL and this might be the difference or it might be due to different 125 gr lead bullets.
IF AP70N is Universal hopefully we will see more of it soon.
Right now it is one of my favorites but I have not been able to try HP38/W231 yet, even though someone here kindly offered me some.

Not to be disagreeable and leave The High Road, but to say Acrobat Reader is perfectly safe is like saying reloading is perfectly safe.
If a person is careful yes they are, if not bad things can happen. It might be better to say Acrobat reader itself is somewhat safe (However, I have in my experience with 1000s of machines seen it conflict with other software and cause issues on occasion, but not often) However .pdfs are not "perfectly safe" as they can contain viruses, just like Word/Excell and other format files for example. Just Google/BING/whatever search PDF + virus. I can say that I have seen infected PDFs found by antivirus software, antivirus in a corparate enviroment is part of my job. If you don't believe legitimate software can be unsafe look up exploits on Flash and Java two very commonly used pieces of software.
For example.

http://www.kaspersky.com/about/news/virus/2013/is_there_any_protection_against_java_exploits
Adobe reader is mentioned there.

I use Adobe reader ( and have also used the full version) and I consider Acrobat Reader a necesary evil like taxes.

PS I hope I don't get a warning for using a nasty word like taxes.....

sexybeast I followed your advice and backed down from 4 to 3.8 and to me the 3.8 seems soft, way softer than factory S+B. 3.8 shoots well for me though so why push it. I had went up to 4.3 (Hodgdons max with a 125 lead TCN) which according to ADI would be way over.

Maybe something to do with being on the bottom half of the world, I understand things are strange there, water drains the wrong way, there are prams, lorries, car parks , spanners etc.
And yes that is the MSDS and it appears to be legit from imrpowder. (Hodgdon/IMR/Winchester powder)

Lets hope walkalong is not being and trying to slip us a bad pdf!

Thanks, interesting.
SAAMI shows NFPA 11-5.4 as showing 10000. Also shows 25000 in a car but only 10000 in a residence, that does not make sense. I was told by a vendor (as I recall) when inquiring how many could be shipped at one time that the limit was 65lbs. Don't have any idea if that is correct, does not seem right. That would be a WHOLE bunch of primers and I would imagine 65lbs would make a sizable bang to say the least if something went wrong.

And yes I saw the box requirement. It's interesting because it says 1" wood walls, does not say what kind of wood, balsa, pine, oak etc. but requires a "weak" wall for venting
How weak is "weak", certainly we don't want to create bomb storing powder by containing it to tightly. I know balsa is streching it but just using it for an example. I would be interested if someone had an "approved" design. Might not be a bad idea even if you did not have more than 20lbs but had more than a couiple.

I will do more follow up research.
It was certainly not my intention to present inaccurate information .

Thanks for the pic Walkalong that gives me some ideas. The cutout/hole is the "weak" side?