.41 Mag Association

I have yet to shoot my model 57 , I am hoping to fix this soon , hopefully memorial day . I am currently using it as my ccw switching along with my 629, I am carrying SWC in it , however I am ordering some silvertips for that.

Barry I have shot the WW 175gr Silvertips in 3" & 4" .41s they are easy to control & clock around 1100fps. They do shoot a bit low out if you are zeroed for the 210gr bullets. I think you will like them. I shot one into 1/2gal cartons of water, it penetrated almost 20" weighted 169.3grs & expanded back to the bottom of the HP measured .675".

I like that load for CCW.

Here is a Sierra 210 JHP that I took out of the dash board radio of a 1970 Ford Bronco.
It went through the spare tire mounted on the tail gate, the tubular tire rack, the tail gate, the back of the seat and into the radio.
Fired from a Military and Police Model S&W over a teaspoon or so of 2400, I think it would take care of a deer or elk without much problem.



I made a tie tack out of it and told the tourists, us Wyoming hombres din't need bullet proof vests, our ties was enuff to handle it.

Gotta check midway. Iggy is that a 657? And who made that holster looks like a great one!

BtB,

That gun is a nickel Model 19.


Check your PM's for more info on the holster.

missouri

That is one very high quality and useful holster. (Ditto the gun therein) There are varying opinions on the type but here is one that is entirely plausible based on old gun writers and a smattering of personal experience. That is a Brill design, the initials may be A.W. Brill. The designer was reputed to be a Texas Ranger and sidekick of the famous Tom Threepersons, of whom you may already know. Brill and Threepersons were camped at a site now in Big Bend National Park, the location of a candillia processing camp, a few miles southeast of Panther Junction, with a good view of miles of the Mexican border, south of the Chisos mountains island floating in the Texas desert.

It was between the world wars and both of them were looking for a holster design suitable for use when riding in autos, as opposed to being on horseback. Both designs were thought out then and there and shortly thereafter prototyped at a West Texas leather shop. Can't remember if Brill was the designer or the shop owner. I spent several years in the area, camped in the same location, probably had a campfire in the same ashes.

It was near there, at the village of Santa Elena, where the Rio Grand enters a narrow canyon, where the border that separates Coahila from Chihuahua meets the US border, that I crossed the border and began my hunt for the fabled Del Carmine whitetail, 41 mag of course. In those days there was no problem getting a gun over either way, if you were a gentleman, and if you paid a few respectful dollars. Ten dollars$.

There were no seasons or limits (game was food and a gift from God - not to be turned away). Tho there was a lot of fur trapping and transporting of furs across the border and thence to New York, (US Fish & Wildlife took a very dim view of that). No ranch fences or millionaire rates to shoot a deer either.
Well, I have gabbed enough, more later if you are not bored.

Old school holsters.
A blast from the past.


http://smith-wessonforum.com/lounge/163677-blast-past.html

Iggy that is a beautiful holster.
Thanks for that link.


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missourimike

Welcome to the forum.
I'd enjoy more later, I'm NOT bored.
Thanks

Nice Shooter

Thanks for having this club.

Such a great marriage of N-frame and caliber. Nice Pic.

My gun is similar.

41 Cal the real MAG>

Here are my 41 Mags
Models 57, 58, 657
Enjoy

Wow some nice six-guns showed up since I last looked.
Thanks for sharing everyone.

Last summer a friend and I were at our LGS and in the cabinet was a Ruger Blackhawk .41 mag that I was going to go by because I was looking for one in .44 mag.

My friend said I should get the .41 and that I would like shooting it. Just when I think I know this guy he surprises me again.

Well, since he's never steered me wrong I got it.

I soon found it was more economical to buy the stuff to reload another caliber than buy ammo.

I know a lot of you guys have been collecting these .41 magnum guns for a long time and know more than I do but I found my friend to be correct, I love shooting this Blackhawk and will be taking it deer hunting this year. Looking for the next .41 now.

Thanks for reading this link post from a new .41 Magnum shooter.

This post should probably go in the rifle section but I figure the .41 mag guys might know better, is there any lever action rifle in the 1873 pattern that is chambered in the .41 magnum?

I have seen one or two on GB. I shoot rifle so rarely that I didn't bite at the price listed. My levers paired with side arms are 45 Colt and 357 Magnum. I would like a 44-40, surely a 327 Federal Magnum if ever available, but the 44-40 has been dropped by Cimarron after ceasing their relationship with Chiappa, who made some of their rifles. I think what I saw was by Marlin. Now I'm liking the Henry 45-70 for a big caliber gun. Always another one on the list.

Marlin 1894 FG /1894S lever rifles in 41 Mag show up on
GB occasionally, but go for $1200 on up or the reserve price is unreal.

Never got into .41.
Pops still has a couple of 3 Screws.

I went .44 mag and never looked back.

'Bout had a heart attack when I heard (recently) the problem with .41 factory ammo availability and what price it was fetching

I reload............but man oh man, the poor guys that don't!

I like the .41!

Iggy said:

I made a tie tack out of it and told the tourists, us Wyoming hombres din't need bullet proof vests, our ties was enuff to handle it.

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I like the tie tack, Iggy!

KO

Barry the Bear said:

This post should probably go in the rifle section but I figure the .41 mag guys might know better, is there any lever action rifle in the 1873 pattern that is chambered in the .41 magnum?

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I have a custom Uberti 1873 in .41 Magnum. I bought it that way and have only dared shoot "cowboy" loads in it. The only choice for factory built lever rifles is still the discontinued 1894 versions from Marlin.



KO

OH! OH! RB Clark, those 41's. Oh the slavering delicious main splendor of it all. I once had similar. They are causing me rapture and pain, like looking at pictures of a beautiful oak under which I first kissed a pretty girl so long ago. Have you hunted successfully with one or another of them? Which do you prefer for auto travel? A favorite holster? More photos please.Thanks again. Missouri Mike.

I'm wondering how the toggle link design of the '73 Winchester handles the pressure of the .41 mag?
But I have seen them in .357 too.

The .41 out of a 7-1/2" bbl is a great deer cartridge at six-gun ranges.

Del Carmine Whitetails.

Seems I have stirred up a hornets nest elsewhere at the mere mention of the above deer. Yes I did successfully hunt them on THE del carmine mountain. As I knew it, it was not a range, it was a solitary mountain. The white tail in question is NOT a crossbreed. It is a certified subspieces of the North American white tail, one of 30, at last count. I am not a biologist or expert of any kind but this what I have learned.

I know that at this time this kind of hunt is very expensive for wealthy Safari Club International types who already have one or two of every animal in the universe on their walls. So there is stiff competition for said trophys. I find claims all over the internet by guides, guide companies, and misinformed others to possessing the no. 1 head. The area, almost immediately opposite Big Bend National Park in Texas, in Mexico, has many south Texas smallish whitetails.

Authentic Del Carmine subspecies, in the past, were found ONLY on that mountain. 40 to 50 yrs ago no one paid any attention to them. To prove you actually have one, you must take it on THE mountain, or today have a DNA test done. This is what the Park biologist told me, confirmed by the National Park Service Regional biologist in Santa Fe New Mexico, by the name of Ro Waurer. He published several papers and you may still be able to review them in the NPS library they have there.

This was just after the 1968 Olympics held in Mexico City where the government had mowed down a dozen or so protesters in the streets. Even the rural gendarmes were getting a little nervous. They patrolled semi regularly in their green Ford Jeeps with the red Mexican Eagle (when they did not steal the gas for themselves.) Since I was known to be able to help them out in a tough spot me and my firearm were not a problem. But that was when ownership of firearms in Mexico was just starting to be a sticky wicket.

Gotta do the evening walk, docs orders, wifes too, then hit the hay. Next chance I will tell you about the hunt, impossibly expensive today for a working man, and you may judge for yourself what I say. One thing for sure, I managed the only one ever taken with a Smith and Wesson model 58 41 magnum.

missourimike

I'm interested in hearing more about the Del Carmine subspecies & the adventures in mexico???
Maybe a seperate thread?
Thanks.